Anonymous #1 18w

Resisting the Chinese communist government!

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

The government orders were to peacefully clear the square

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The telegraph article I posted

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

Just looking into it, what they were saying is that unarmed people died in regions around the square not that it was totally peaceful, if that’s what you’re trying to imply.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Yes, they said there was a massacre in the surrounding areas of the city, but , importantly, not in Tiananmen Square

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

What’s the point of saying this?

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Because the post lied

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Anonymous #3 18w

They lied? How could you ever know that lol?

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

Imagine someone posted something about massacres in Warsaw resulting from Nazis. Then you say “well actually it didn’t happen in Warsaw” in that analogy it just seems like your running cover for Nazis lol. Just a weird detail to focus in on.

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Anonymous #1 18w

Bro is pretending to have seen the video

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Lemme guess, amnesty international and radio free Asia told you that?😭😭😭😭😭😭😭anyway I take it you’ve “seen” the video too?

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Anonymous OP 18w

Me when even direct eyewitnesses for not notoriously hate China disagree

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Anonymous #3 18w

What source would you trust to say the tank man image is censored?

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Probably one that’s not funded by the state department or the ned that openly talks about how it’s a propaganda wing😭

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I know lmfaooo

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Well the mainstream narrative of what happened actually isn’t true

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Anonymous #3 18w

Just bc you provide funding something doesn’t mean you direct the content, so if I found a media company that wasn’t funded by the federal government then you would believe it?

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

People think there were hundreds of thousands of protestors peacefully asking for democracy that were mowed down at the square. In reality, the government ordered no violence in the square, the students demands were decentralized and more complicated, some of the protestors were armed, and the violence was in the surrounding areas as troops attempted to reach the square

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

The mainstream narrative from historians and media is that it didn’t happen in Tiananmen Square. That’s why mainstream media is reporting it that way.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Not true, for example most people think tank man was run over

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

You’re doing the thing where you’re responding to an argument no one is seriously making. Mainstream media has already reported on what you’re saying no one is hiding any of these facts.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

We’re not talking about what most people believe. Most people believe the monopoly guy has a monocle things get lost in popular culture. You’re making seem like people are intentionally hiding things.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

I’m not making it seem anything, I’m just showing the evidence and you can come to a conclusion yourself

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Sure it does, especially when the content in question not only contradicts sources that you didn’t fund and also happen to align with your political goals lmao. Why don’t you go on ahead to the CIA’s website and read their declassified documents on what was actually happening in Tiananmen Square where can you see how it was a psyop lmao

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Anonymous #3 18w

Then why would Trump defund PBS if he could just make them say whatever he wanted? Notice how you can’t name a source you would trust it’s bc there isn’t one. This is just a dogmatic thing you believe.

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Anonymous OP 18w

That a lot of dead people to be peaceful

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

You’re showing very selective details to run cover, It’s very obvious.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Is…. This a joke😭

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

I’m showing evidence that contradicts the mainstream narrative. For example, there are photos and videos of some students being armed, contradicting the narrative that every student was unarmed

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Anonymous #3 18w

What did I say that was wrong?

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Anonymous OP 18w

Question - who did casualties consist of?

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Re-read your comment and think about it carefully

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Anonymous #3 18w

And follow-up question - where did they occur?

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Anonymous #3 18w

Chinese civilians, including student protesters, workers, and residents of Beijing who had joined the pro-democracy demonstrations. Some People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers and police personnel also died during clashes.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

You’re literally referencing the telegraph, a mainstream source. If you want to say you’re challenging the popular understanding, sure I would agree with that.

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Anonymous #3 18w

The majority of killings occurred on the roads leading to Tiananmen Square and elsewhere in Beijing, not solely within the square itself.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

But you’re showing very one sided nuances I would say very purposefully.

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Anonymous #3 18w

I’ve thought everything I said was true and based and that’s why you can’t respond to it. Just name a source bro easy.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Some people are just too committed to state department propaganda to think critically and that’s okay❤️

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

Well if there’s another side that isn’t mainstream, I’d love to hear it. I’m only sharing the facts that are less known

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Anonymous #3 18w

Is it state department propaganda to ask what source someone would trust lol? The mind rot.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

I’m not saying mainstream=bad I’m saying you can’t say it’s not mainstream. Yeah I agree you are for sure doing that, just random facts bc you’re rlly into the nuanced details of 1980s history. No other reason.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

I’m interested in the truth of China

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

Ok then don’t lie about what’s mainstream information if you care so deeply about the truth lol.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

I think you’re arguing over nothing cuz u don’t like how the truth isn’t what the mainstream narrative says

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

Why do you keep calling it the mainstream when you’re referencing mainstream sources?

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

It’s ok rage baiting ig.

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

The nature of Wikileaks is that it’s not mainstream

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

And the fact that some students were armed with weapons is not mainstream

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Anonymous OP 18w

Notice the wording: “some PLA soldiers *also died* during the clashes”. Instead of saying that soldiers were killed by being burned alive, Wikipedia says “died” to make their killings seem natural.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

They should be you can have armed resistance to an authoritarian one party state. Mega based.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

What does that excuse exactly, what’s your point. The Chinese govt didn’t have to fire into a crowd.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

Also doesn’t change the fact they opened fire on non armed protestors. Maybe they wouldn’t need guns if China allowed more legitimate forms to protest their government. That’s the consequence of being authoritarian cope.

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

You're not just quoting wiki leaks lol you've literally admitted that in this convo, the random memory loss lol.

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Anonymous OP 18w

I’m not excusing anything, just sharing facts

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Anonymous blue__wave 18w

The student protestors should have armed resistance, sure. What I’m saying is that some students were armed with guns, knives, Molotov cocktails. This means that they aren’t all unarmed

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Anonymous landtrust 18w

No one said that no one was armed, just having an imaginary argument.

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