Anonymous #3 12w

Technofeudalism

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Anonymous OP 12w

Some of these are not like the others. What’s the problem with a 15 minute city?

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Anonymous #2 12w

China has fallen billions must farm rice

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Anonymous #3 12w

A 15 minute city is not inherently a problem by itself but they will inevitably include biometric identification checkpoints at entry/exit to the city and use them in a totalitarian manner

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Anonymous OP 12w

Can you explain how you came to that conclusion? Humanity has had 15 minute cities for almost all of existence, it’s only since the ‘60s and car-dependent culture that we’ve gotten rid of them.

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Anonymous #3 12w

There is no need to group everything so close together in a manner that doesn't form naturally unless you intend to put borders on that space

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Anonymous OP 12w

Oh, that’s not what a 15 minute city is

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Anonymous #3 12w

I mean that's literally what a 15 minute city is when it doesn't form naturally but sure

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Anonymous OP 12w

Bro just threw in “15 minute city” along the surveillance when it’s just good city design where you can walk/bike/public transit to common areas you need (food, healthcare, education, shopping)

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Anonymous #1 12w

More importantly than making it all accessible, it also groups all of those essential services together in a small area which can be more easily controlled via land borders

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Anonymous OP 12w

You don’t know what a 15 minute city is. It doesn’t mean EVERYTHING in the city is within 15 minutes of each other, it means that every neighborhood has what it needs within a 15 minute walk, like this:

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Anonymous #3 12w

Each of those things aren’t the only ones, it’s just that there is one of them within 15 minutes of everywhere.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Still groups it all together in a smaller area when it is designed specifically for that purpose

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Anonymous OP 12w

No it doesn’t

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Anonymous OP 12w

Or it spreads them out, using mixed-use development, so you can.. walk to different services within 15 minutes Instead of 30 minutes to work, 20 minutes opposite direction to doctor, 15 minutes in 3rd direction to shopping, etc

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Anonymous #1 12w

I'm just gonna drive there anyway tbh why would I want to walk in a city

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Anonymous OP 12w

There’s no point arguing with a take like that, it seems like you don’t want to open your eyes to life.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Idk bro I would never want to get all my groceries and then walk back with them to my house even though it's already like a 5 min walk. I would need to bring the cart from the grocery store to my house and back and would end up looking like a homeless person

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Anonymous OP 12w

Do you have arms?

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Anonymous #3 12w

Yeah but only 2 sadly not 8 like the amount of bags I need to carry

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Anonymous #3 12w

Plus even assuming that carrying 8 full grocery bags is light work, what about all the cases of beer?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Are you feeding a family of 10? If you use the paper bags, they hold more. My groceries can fit in one or two of them.

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Anonymous #3 12w

Or what if I need to bring a bunch of tools back to my house from the auto shop? Just supposed to juggle a drill press, a toolbox, ramps, an oil pan and a jug of oil?

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Anonymous #3 12w

Grocery store doesn't offer paper bags they are too expensive

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Anonymous OP 12w

Is that a daily occurrence for you?

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Anonymous #3 12w

I'd say more like weekly or biweekly but regardless it is a common occurrence

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Anonymous OP 12w

Lmao

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