"hard to believe he is alive"
fuck me how is that hard to believe? for anyone? anyone on this planet?
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Anonymous19w
this is scary. how can anybody read these words coming out of a grown man’s mouth and still believe he should be allowed to run our entire country
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Anonymous19w
MF is just making shit up. Nothing new, I know, but still.
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Anonymous19w
This is propaganda. Clear as day.
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Anonymous19w
Tf he literally puts his gun away and walks around, car never touched him
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Anonymous19w
“Who seems to have” ok so we’re just assuming now.
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Anonymous19w
Pants on fire
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Anonymous19w
I hate the guy but he is objectively correct, apart from the blatant propaganda. It was self defense. TN v Garder (1985) and Graham v Connor (1989) unfortunately set that precedent.
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Anonymous#519w
She was turning her fucking car around and complying with orders. It wasn’t self defense at all
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Anonymousjust_peachy_19w
no she wasn’t. Orders were to get out of the car. She drove instead. that’s just a lie
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Anonymous#519w
If she truly was in the wrong how come the agent fled the scene afterwards?
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Anonymous#519w
You’re quoting cases that support that this is not self defense💀
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AnonymousOP19w
#5 im very confused by your comment 😂 it literally says the use of deadly force to prevent an escape is wrong
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AnonymousOP19w
Also take a look at DHS policy
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AnonymousOP19w
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AnonymousOP19w
Yes. But the initial shots were bc she was driving with agents swarming her car. “…OR OTHERS” he had reasonable suspicion to believe that she was going to drive into them or others
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Anonymous#519w
Can you read the policy ?
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AnonymousOP19w
TN v Garder
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Anonymous#519w
I posted TN v Garder which explicitly says “ the use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the 4A”
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AnonymousOP19w
Keep reading. Read the part in quotes in your ss
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Anonymous#519w
Significant threat of DEATH or SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY.
Which were not present
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AnonymousOP19w
Yes. Driving a vehicle with people around is an example of suspect posing a threat of serious physical injury to the officer OR OTHERS.
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AnonymousOP19w
He was the only one in front of the vehicle ( more towards the left front bumper ) the car has hard turned right.
He could reasonably move out of the way ( which he did and continued shooting ) and no one else was in danger
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AnonymousOP19w
he even made the second shot WHILE moving out of the way
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Anonymous#719w
why even shoot??? Why wasn’t shooting her tires their initial reaction
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Anonymous#719w
Yes exactly. The second and third shot he made were when he was completely out of the way and no one was in any danger.
So he was perfectly able to move out of the way of the vehicle without getting any injury.
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Anonymous#519w
#5 just an FYI though
ICE is not the police
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Anonymous#519w
So by your logic we shouldn’t drive cars through college campuses since there are people around
Or after concerts
Or at amusement parks
Or anywhere with a crosswalk
Or anywhere with any form of a parking lot
Genuinely how does your comment make ANY sense at all..
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Anonymous#519w
Even if I was to humor your dumb ideology, how do you explain them refusing to allow her medical attention afterwards? A physician was on site and begged them to let them attempt life saving care and they refused to let the physician help
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Anonymous#519w
Have you seen the video?
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Anonymous#919w
genuinely and that’s so inconsiderate to the woman who DID NOT make it
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Anonymous#819w
They have to be brainwashed because there’s no way