Oh, absolutely, because clearly nothing says ârigorous political analysisâ like casually equating contemporary conservative policies with one of historyâs most genocidal regimes. Bold of you to confuse disagreeing with you for endorsing fascism. But sure, Iâll look it up, right after you do the bare minimum to differentiate between âpolicies I dislikeâ and actual authoritarianism.
Lemme specify. I have a moral objection to throwing people in an unlit, dank, cramped basement cell without any beds. That objection is amplified by the fact that Iâm seeing a couple of kids and a pregnant woman being put in these circumstances. I thought at first this wouldnât need explanation but Iâm giving it a shot.
I assume this was meant to be in response to my comment, and if so then you entirely missed my point. Sure Nazi might be an exaggeration depending on who/whatâs being discussed, however this post IS discussing policy that mirrors Nazi policies for the same end goals. And I again ask you to look the history up for yourself
So youâre refusing to educate yourself? Iâm asking you to look it up because I donât want you to take my word for it, not because I donât know what Iâm talking about đ and what goal posts were moved? Iâve only been saying that the current administration is mirroring nazi policies, and that supporting those policies logically makes you a fascist, if not a modern Nazi outright. Whatâs so disagreeable about that?
Ah yes, nothing says thoughtful analysis like declaring anyone who disagrees must be a Nazi. Surely that will convince people. It is fascinating how asking for a little nuance is now seen as refusing to educate oneself. But by all means, keep insisting that the only two political categories left are "agree with me" and "modern fascist." Declaring people fascists without offering a single concrete example is definitely the gold standard of persuasive argument.
When did I ever say there only 2 political stances? I just said that if you support fascism, youâre a fascist đ€Łđ€Ł this post is literally about our federal government utilizing fascist and nazi policies and methods to oppress minorities and opposition and to insight fear. By all means utilize a policy that isnât fascist in nature and I wonât call you a fascist, but until then, the average German that supported the Nazis were called Nazis too unless Iâm wrong
For reference, actual fascist regimes centralized all power under a dictator, abolished free elections, suppressed all media and dissent through state violence, and operated through mass propaganda and militarization. If you believe that is an accurate description of our current government, then either you are catastrophically uninformed or willfully ignoring the meaning of the words you are using.
The kids that are citizens are allowed to stay in the country with family members and sponsors. The kids arenât being deported, theyâre leaving with their parents. Keeping the families together unlike Obama. Also the part where theyâre âhere legallyâ is dubious. Biden didnât have the constitutional authority to just single a document making all of these people âprotected legal residents.â
And the fact you canât see how weâre very very quickly sliding towards that scares me. It could be grabbing your balls and you would be blind to the authoritarianism Trump is forcing on Americans. Heâs literally centralizing power under himself, claiming elections are rigged, suppressing media that disagrees with his policies, heâs detaining and deporting legal dissenters, and is toeing with militarization. But ya he isnât following fascist policies đ
We have all this goddamn money to put little men in tanks and nice uniforms and give them guns, we have all this money to send overseas and kill people with, we CERTAINLY have money to skim off the top, but our prisons arenât the ritz Carlton? We canât give our prisoners a bed to sleep in? We canât light their cells up?
Ya, theyâre being forced between either being put into adoption (because theyâre immigrants they almost never have family) or being forced back to the countries they have usually run away and seeked asylum from. And if Biden didnât have the authority to do something of that magnitude, what makes Trump have the authority to make even more overreaching and questionable legally impactful decisions?
Somehow every disagreement becomes proof of your prophetic insight. Truly compelling. Trump saying mean things about the press is not the same as state-run media. Contesting election resultsâwhile exhaustingâis not the abolition of elections. Deporting people under immigration law, even aggressively, is not âdetaining dissenters.â And if weâre already in a militarized fascist regime, itâs strange how youâre still free to shout about it online without consequence.
A large portion of the deportations have involved people who DID COME HERE LEGALLY, they went through the proper methods or at least attempted to do so after learning the correct procedures. Trump and his team have instead illegally revoked their legal paperwork, thereby making them illegally illegal. Yes a good bit of deportations are in fact illegal people, but wayyyyyy too many are the first case and the administrations response to their mistakes has only been worse.
These people have lived her for years in many cases believing they were doing things the right ways, only for Trump to come by and force them to go back to the gangs that want them dead. Itâs one thing to change the policy and accommodate for the legally here immigrants, and another to label them as criminals when they arenât, and then double down on it when itâs been proven
Dude you said they arenât, and then quoted a case of when they did. And there have been a ton more other than him too heâs just been the biggest on the news. And they pulled that charge out of thin air after MONTHS of being ambiguous and tight lipped about any reasoning for his deportation. I think itâs you that needs to read more non-republican news sources because theyâve CRIMINALLY been under reporting the unconstitutionality of trumps policies
Aaaaand there the insults come. Once youâre proven wrong you guys always double down, project and insult. And the body cam footage is literally him and 2 other dudes being pulled over and then detained? There was literally no evidence to suggest anything other than odd moods which can totally be due to the cop pulling them over lmao. Thereâs no evidence I can find online that isnât here-say or just incorrect
There was a tip off by a supposed but unnamed reliable source that he was ms13, and that literally it other than some tattoos that are cryptically ms13 related at a stretch of imagination. The way the administration handled him and his case was atrocious and unconstitutional regardless of the verdict as well. The whole situation was extremely sloppy, just like their administration. How many arguments and firings have happened in their own administration already after all?
Hi! History and sociology major with a specialty in authoritarianism. Hereâs a list of just a few examples - banning AP news from the White House and allowing only right wing news corporations - Trump using Musk to win an election with bribes - Deportations without due process. Speaks for itself - Suppression of free speech such as student protests - arresting political opponents - discussing running for a third term