Anonymous #2 6d

I love how someone wearing nail polish and a skirt is the same as a maralago child auction in this guys mind

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Anonymous #1 6d

Yes, if you take Christian morality, which is the framework of western thought, you are have an objective moral standard of which condemns both child abuse and the ‘unnatural’ mutilation of one’s body. We in the west have forgotten what has shaped our moral values and the tolerance we have had for the increasingly expressive lgbtq community has blinded us from how once pervasive it really was seen. My argument is transgenderism when assessed with the western moral framework as it truly should be

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Anonymous OP 6d

Hun I’m Catholic and have no idea what you are waffling on about

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Anonymous #2 6d

I think your sarcasm went undetected lol

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Anonymous #5 6d

Damn your right I’m too good at this

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Anonymous OP 6d

Is just has immoral as why Epstein did. They are both consequences of the same vein of corrupting thought. The freedom man has experienced after the Protestant reformation has slowly eroded constraints on morality—people come to their own conclusions on who they are and what they believe, which has caused judgement to extend to dark places that Christian morality sought to defend the mind from, being child abuse and transgenderism.

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Anonymous OP 6d

In an amoral world both are equally valid as beliefs, but if you truly take western morality as objective, which most people do without even considering themselves religious, from my perspective it seems you are obligated to see the immorality of both concepts. Epstein and transgenderism are consequences of the erosion of that societal objective morality of the west

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Anonymous OP 6d

Nobody who says be “true to yourself” or “love is love” is talking about pedos… that kind of goes without saying

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Anonymous OP 6d

Our government and society is increasingly secular overall. The idea that America is inherently a Christian society is contradictory to our laws, constitution, history and culture. It’s fundamentally unamerican. Also not all churches condemn being transgender and many transgender people are Christian as well as Jewish and other religions.

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Anonymous #4 6d

Yes sorry

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Anonymous #1 6d

Is it? All of our laws are grounded in some sense on Christian moral principles. To you second point what churches—literally only Protestant churches, which are in fact the genesis of these ails. I am not religious so this isn’t a defense of the validity, but a point to acknowledge consistency and illuminate why we even think about the immorality of Epsteins actions

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Anonymous OP 6d

No, our constitution mandates our laws make no respect to any religion and our democratic society is quickly becoming less religious. The common Christian morality hasn’t even been fixed, abortion and the use of abortifacients wasn’t and issue in any church until American Protestants made an issue about it in the 1800s. You’re just presupposing nonsense to justify what you already think. If a democratic society stops participating in religion then the society’s laws will emphasize religion less.

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Anonymous OP 6d

There are a lot of churches that are accepting or becoming more accepting.

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Anonymous #2 6d

Not Catholic, not orthodox

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Anonymous OP 6d

Are you trying to suggest that the Catholic Church who has a pope who routinely makes decisions about morality in the church law that has had many many popes for centuries hasn’t changed beliefs a little? Really? You can’t imagine a future where that changes?

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Anonymous #1 6d

Our constitution fundamentally assumes to an agreed upon morality, of which was Christian morality, these questions never entered into the founders minds they thoughts that America would continue on the path of morality it was subjected to at the time. This has proved not the case. Your second point I agree with, but obviously that isn’t true for all of our laws yet. The further we get from Christian morality is territory with no inherent truth and will be a moment that requires some sort of rec

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Anonymous OP 6d

Reconciliation of truth

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Anonymous #1 6d

Sure but it cannot be drastically he is still constrained by tradition, acceptance or change on the level you are discussing is far to drastic to ever be plausible

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Anonymous OP 6d

This is to ur shorter paragraph about pope

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Anonymous OP 6d

Dude I’m Catholic and we definitely are becoming more accepting (we still have a lot to do).

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Anonymous #2 6d

Yes because you speak for the whole. Furthermore that just contradicts any stable doctrine. If you won’t be logical do not discuss

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Anonymous OP 6d

I’m not logical? You are the one saying the world views pedophiles and LGBTQ people the same. Pound sand dumbfuck

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