Anonymous shield_of_democracy 17w

Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack in part because top generals ignored warning signs that there was an entire attack coming the morning of

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Anonymous just_peachy_ 17w

The ignorance was based upon the belief no one was stupid enough to attack the US. If we believe that we are invulnerable we will have another Pearl Harbor

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Anonymous shield_of_democracy 17w

That’s an argument for a more alert military, not a coke brained idea of a defense system

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The presence of nukes doesn’t automatically cancel out the risk of an attack. Once that genie is let out of the bottle there’s no going back. This isn’t a good argument to use. There are massive consequences that outweigh the benefits of nuclear weapons

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Anonymous just_peachy_ 17w

The US needs to be protected. Thing Trump doesn’t realize is we already have a 7 tiered air defense system including long range defense, medium range defenses, and short range defenses, interdiction equipment and EM counter warfare systems intended to jam guidance systems

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Anonymous shield_of_democracy 17w

I’m not saying we don’t need to be protected, I’m saying that Americans are so hyper paranoid about this vague idea of an attack happening that they’ll happily watch their tax dollars wasted on shit we don’t need

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yea he doesn’t lmfao he is defying court orders (one from the supreme court!)

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The thing about modern warfare is that it is always evolving, the system we have is outdated by nearly 25 years, the golden dome isn’t a good idea financially or strategically, it makes 0 sense, however our hardware and weaponry we use to protect ourselves needs to be modernized to counter potential adversaries having access to Hypersonic missiles (No one has them yet, but China is getting close. Russia claims they do but Khinzal is conventional HS)

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I don’t believe in fascism

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You’re as sharp as a marble, ain’t ya

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Fascism is right wing dude. Conservatism is closer to it than leftism It doesn’t tear down tradition. Rather it strengthens it. Traditional gender roles, a yearning for a great past, and a rejection of modernity are classic fascist beliefs. You think federally regulated private enterprise is left wing? Buddy, leftists don’t like privatization. Why do you think the Nazis locked up all the communists and anarchists? Is that something a left wing movement would do? Are commies right wing to you?

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Buddy, my degree is sociology and history. This is something I study extensively. What I’ve described isn’t “culture war” stuff, and instead what happened to real people. They did attack Jewish people, gay people, anarchists, and others. So much to the point they put them in death camps! And if they were so communist why did they lock up the communists? Why did funny moustache man say that their movement has nothing to do with Marxism?

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Wdym modern technology? They shot themselves in the foot constantly. They built worse tanks due to Hitler wanting them to look a certain way, didn’t invest in rockets because they thought it was “jewish science” and also did a shit ton of crackhead experiments on people And again, if they along closer to communists politically, then how come the first people locked up were communists? Wouldn’t it make sense for them to lock up conservatives first?

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Anonymous just_peachy_ 17w

*are closer to communists politically

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I’m so confused what you’re saying. You’re saying that the nazis were more economically and politically closer to communists. You’re also saying that they murdered communists due to the fact they challenged Nazi power. You’re also implying that, since communists were their only political opposition at that point, that the conservatives were not targeted or attacked. So if Nazism is closer to communism than conservatism, none of this makes sense

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Social democrats are capitalists, but democratic socialists are not. Two different things The nazis were not a communist or a socialist. Both of those involve the workers owning the means of production, and the nazis shut down unions and other pro labor groups. So calling them anything remotely socialist or communist is insane. Socialism isn’t just when regulations. Yes, the Nazis did do a lot of regulation, but if anything it was for the favor of…

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Anonymous just_peachy_ 17w

corporations. I would best describe their economy as a heavily regulated corporatist economy if anything. It doesn’t really fit into either a socialist or a conservative economy I also want to point out that you not really touching on so called “culture war” topics is erasing a massive part of what the Nazis did. None of that was remotely socialist or progressive. The Nazis wanted an aryan society ffs, and one built upon traditional roles and wiping out undesirables

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> democratic socialism > is regulated private enterprise Do you realize how stupid you sound? Also you getting upset about erasing tradition is exactly what the Nazis were pissed at. They said we need to return to a great past and get rid of current degeneracy. They weren’t tearing down statues, they were building ones of these supposed great aryan figures. And yes they rewrote history, but that’s not something progressives are doing. Actually, progressive research was being erased by nazis

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