Anonymous #1 10w

Immigrants ARE the economy. The logic is fucking stupid.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Agreed.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Trump tried it with china, but the backlash was really strong so he worked it back. Can’t deport African Americans back to Africa (yet 💀), so the only option left are our southernly friends

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Anonymous #2 10w

Just to be clear I’m 100% against Trump in pretty much everything, I’m just contextualizing it from a big picture scale

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Anonymous #2 10w

That’s Bannon’s perspective, but he’s still a bit of an outsider. The billionaire argument doesn’t really add up once you start factoring in this administrations take on the aggressiveness of anti-migrant sentiment and the strong rhetoric regarding trade deficits and tariffs. Hell…you could even say the lack of support for Ukraine isn’t necessarily helping the military industrial complex either. I think there’s a lot of esotericism is against even most billionaires.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Tim Cook had to outright beg Trump to make exceptions for their supply chain that mostly exists within China to be exempt from tariffs. Bezos keeps making the news because of how he’s handling the tariffs himself by listing it within the prices.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Idek who bannon is lol I think billionaires realize the country getting more diverse will ultimately lead to them having to may more for social programs (as they fucking should). But, I genuinely think they care more about maintaining power for an extra 5 years rather than accelerated profits short term with a shorter window Either that or the majority genuinely are just racist

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Anonymous #2 10w

Steve Bannon is an ideologue who is close to Trump. He’s more or less the one pushing soft concepts of white identitarianism as well as “West vs East” type mentality. There are SOME billionaires that benefit, but profit was never their main motive. Peter Thiel is one propping up JD Vance with their social Darwinism stuff. Overall, I just think the “blaming the 1%” argument is about as archaic as neocons or liberals with “civility”. Those are pre-Trump talking points that don’t work anymore.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

I don’t quite get what you’re saying then. Could it not just be that the lost money short term will be offset by his new tax relief policy, with the “benefit” of prolonging the ethnic diversification of the US?

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Like statistically, white people vote 60% Republican, while minorities average around 70% democrat. With white Americans being the majority, it counteracts that major favorability for the Democratic Party (relative to the two party system). Once white Americans are close to 50% of America, republicans will either need to capture more of the minority vote or more of the white vote to stay relevant

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Anonymous #2 10w

Possibly…but I still don’t see how it’s short term. I mean billionaires are crazy, but I don’t think they’re stupid. There are not enough unemployed Americans to even fill the jobs that would be lost if you deported every illegal immigrant. It wouldn’t be short term is what I’m trying to say. If I can deduce that, so can they. Elon is a really good example. It’s why he was in favor of the H1B program. He is the billionaire who wants cheap labor for the sake of profit.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Ai is going to replace 70% of the workforce by 2040

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Anonymous #2 10w

I just don’t see any billionaire doing well under white identitarianism. Unless it’s some ultra esoteric super racist billionaire, I’m pretty sure most only give a fuck about their power base, which is their wealth. Logical I would think they want globalism and multiculturalism for cheap labor.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Oh yeah I’d agree, like I see no valid reason to not push for that, it’s the best next step for human society. But obv to them something about what Trump is doing is preferable. Idk if it’s the tax breaks, the immigration stance, both, or some mysterious third option, but that’s the most rational reasoning I could imagine

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Anonymous #3 10w

When they run out of immigrants, it’ll go back to race, when they run out of races, it’ll be religion, when they run out of religion, it’ll be ancestry. They’ll always find something

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Anonymous #3 10w

Just look at Mamdani’s campaign. Look how fucking livid they are, because he’s not in their pocket, not funded by them, look how hard HIS OWN PARTY is speaking against his policies of public transit and childcare. Because he talks based on what peasants want, instead of what billionaires have cleared.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Tbf they did the same with Obama. The institutional democrats were dead set on Hillary being the ‘08 nominee.

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Anonymous #3 10w

This logic doesn’t make much sense either unless you also admit that Trump was also elected by peasants.

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Anonymous smokin_on_em 10w

🤦‍♂️ That doesn’t even come close to being profitable if you’re grouping billionaires as a class. I have to imagine the hospitality industry, construction industry, agriculture industry, restaurant industry, etc have a bigger market cap than the private prison industry.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Believe me, I’m not arguing in favor of the private prison industry. I just have to assume that there is some profit motive involved since private companies are the ones who built and run these detention centers. Regardless, profiting off of inhumanly detaining people is disgusting.

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Anonymous __joker__ 10w

Also, the private prison industry has inmates working for them. They contract with other companies to have their inmates make all sorts of products. They pay the inmates very little and then sell their products for much more. I’m sure the prison company is getting a substantial cut of that too.

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