Anonymous #1 21h

Then let’s start with him instead

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Anonymous OP 21h

Agreed. We can sacrifice some criminals in the name of justice.

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Anonymous OP 21h

Besides, compared to most traditionalists I don’t like order. I love it.

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Anonymous #1 21h

but the state should not have the power to execute people. How is this hard to understand

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Anonymous OP 21h

Agreed. This should be within the powers of the federal government or any central government. I’m not so sure a provincial government should be doing this all the time.

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Anonymous OP 21h

Besides various governments have been doing this for a long time and has been a great way to manage society’s most vile characters

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

There is no positive impact of executions. You murdering someone for committing crime without addressing why that crime was committed only teaches people to be sneakier and better hide that crime. Also brother crime was much higher in the past than it is today. Finally executing someone opens the door to murdering an innocent person. Black people especially are more likely to be convicted even when proven innocent. This is seen when the death penalty was legal and even after it was banned.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

People get drunk watching football in person at the stadium. People also get drunk watching football in their living room. Do you see how being televised doesn’t mean it isn’t still entertainment? This is the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard

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Anonymous #3 20h

No. It makes people think like this: “Grr I’m so mad I want to crim.” *watches person get executed for crim* “Hmm, maybe I should not do crim because I don’t want to end up like that person.” Everyone at some point has an idea to do something evil. Public executions help people forget the idea and focus on being a good person instead.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

except there are numerous pedophiles who watches Chris Hansen and would still show up to solicit minors and get arrested. So IN PRACTICE no. This does not work

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Anonymous OP 20h

But now people have the choice for it to be entertaining or not. The problem was that if you wanted to go to an execution to see justice the rowdy crowd would make it feel icky. In private you can get that feeling of justice.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

If people have the choice for it to be entertaining or not, then that completely refutes your original point.

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Anonymous OP 20h

You literally just proved my point. Your comment admits some pedophiles were dissuaded because of the show.

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Anonymous OP 20h

It wasn’t wrong for it to be entertaining. It was wrong that people could not get the sense of justice.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Brother consequences don’t deter crime. ADDRESING the REASON for that crime deters crime.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

I said pedophiles watched the show and still committed the crime. As in NOT DISSUADED. Read much?

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Anonymous OP 20h

You can’t get them all? Like what, if 99% got dissuaded would you still say the show was not a net positive because of the 1% left?

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

please be consistent. You just said it was inappropriate for it to be entertaining and now you are saying it’s not. First it’s wrong to have a good time and now it’s okay. Pick a struggle

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Anonymous OP 20h

Inappropriate for the people who were there to see justice served. I am logically consistent.

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Anonymous #3 20h

Logic doesn’t work on them unfortunately. Why solve the root issue when you can just kill people? That’s their entire MO

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Brother the bottom line is execution in general whether to be watched or kill a criminal is wrong because it opens the door for several negative outcomes.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

I’m not saying you will get all of them. I’m saying that having 1% does not mean we will everyone publically

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Anonymous #3 20h

Consequences are the main reason crime is deterred. People don’t steal from stores because they believe in some moral form of capitalism. People don’t steal because they don’t want an issue with police.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Let’s say you kill someone who was falsely convicted and you do not know that until faster you’ve executed them. THATS THE FUCKING ISSUE WITH EXECUTIONS

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Anonymous OP 20h

*after

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Anonymous OP 20h

Killing wrongly convicted people is a historical issue. If there is undeniable video/dna/internet evidence. In those cases people deserve execution. If evidence is murky I agree people should not be killed.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Most crime is committed through circumstances/situation/necessity. Hardly anyone wakes up one day and says “I’m going to commit a crime” My question is WHY are you PUSHING to kill people RATHER than wanting to ADDRESS the ISSUES driving them to that situation?

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

So every crime deserves execution in your eyes?

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Anonymous OP 20h

No.

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Anonymous OP 20h

As in is there a specific category toy think is punishable by death

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

People don’t just commit crime dude. Poverty predicts crime should we just murder homeless people now? Crime rate drops when people are taken care of and ofc it will never be 0% but that doesn’t mean we just kill people who commit crimes

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Anonymous OP 20h

Only category is attempted murder or intent to cause massive bodily injury.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Exactly. People can lose their fear of death if their situation is that desperate. It’s why crime was much more prevalent in the past than it is today even when horrible punishments were done. A person’s hand would be chopped off if they were caught stealing food. That didnt stop people from stealing.

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Anonymous #3 20h

There is no necessity. In America you can get free food, water, and shelter if you look for it.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Again why not address the issue that would lead someone to commit murder? Mental Health investments, poverty, systemic sabotage etc.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

You are so naive and deluded to a ridiculous degree.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Did you know there are people in poverty who don’t do crime and instead focus on working and improving their lives?

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Anonymous #3 20h

^^

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Anonymous #3 20h

Yeah, I’m sure a therapy session for Islamic terrorists is exactly what we need right now.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Yeah and there are people who live comfortably and commit crime. That doesn’t change the fact that poverty predicts crime

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Yeah you are definitely the average republican voter. Ridiculously ignorant/uneducated to the nth degree.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

This is the most ridiculous notion ever

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Anonymous OP 20h

Your logic is that poverty causes crime. In reality, it’s criminals who put themselves into poverty. At its core the person makes the choice, not the poverty.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Holy dumb 🫏

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

The issue is that you want a 100% flawless solution and when we give you a solution that works for nearly everyone (but not all) in an attempt to solve the root issue, it’s not enough for you. So you resort to killing

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

So the woman stealing bread because she already can’t afford food put her self in the situation for a crime she didn’t commit until after she was in said situation?

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Even terrorism has a why. If I run into your country/destabilize your region, chances are you’ll form an ideology that is anti-me.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

The logic is: when people’s fundamental needs are met (that is: warm, appropriate housing, accessible potable water, fresh food that is easily accessible, etc.) they perform better and they are less likely to commit crimes. Your entire argument is people wake up and just want to commit crime and that’s a fairy tale. yes some people do, but that’s not the general trend of crime.

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Anonymous OP 20h

Ok. Tell me how your American utopia would have handled this Islamic terrorist?

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

Don’t run into their country/destabilize their region.

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

The Islamic terrorist wouldn’t be dead set on attacking America if we didn’t oust Mohammad Mosaddegh and replace him with the Fazlollah Zahedi and Shaw who proceeded to murder their own civilians in the name of authoritarianism

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Anonymous last_republican_on_yikyak 20h

You are the perfect example of the Republican Party housing the more uneducated. You are an example of why education should be invested in and accessible to EVERYONE across the GLOBE.

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Anonymous #3 19h

This exact same argument could be made for Stalin’s purges. It is logical to say that because Stalin was paranoid of his general. He was right to purge them, even if it hampered his performance during the world war.

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Anonymous #1 19h

Can you elaborate please? I don’t see the connection

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