Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Illegal. As in they are breaking the law and aren’t here legally

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Saying you hate America is not being critical and not loving your country…

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Hate is the opposite of love. To say that you can hate your country and still love it is redundant

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Anonymous #6 14w

Why should I care if they are here legally or not? It’s a victimless crime.

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Anonymous #3 14w

It’s not redundant, it’s contradictory. And you absolutely can had aspects of something while loving others. The world isn’t black and white, it’s gray. Grow up

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Its a crime and its definitely not victimless. They are literally examples of illegals smuggling in drugs, people have been murdered, raped, assaulted, robbed. Those are victims and it was made possible through the awful border policies from the last administration

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Anonymous #6 14w

Those are all separate crimes than illegal crossing the border or overstaying your visa. If you cared about crime though you wouldn’t be focusing on immigrants though, considering they commit significantly less crimes than US citizens. But no, simply crossing the border or overstaying your visa does not create victims which is what the vast majority of illegal immigrants do to find a peaceful and productive life here.

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Significantly less crimes per capita than IS citizens*

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Anonymous #7 14w

The world isn’t black and white and yet when it comes to politics you will shut out people who have different views than you.. that checks out

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

US*

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Anonymous #3 14w

“Why are people so angry at me when I support fascism and tearing innocent families apart? So much for the tolerant left.”

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Are you sn idiot or something. These are crimes that have been perpetrated by illegal immigrants. No not all but the fact that real citizens had to suffer from something preventable by enforcing our laws is cause for alarm and being more strict on the border cause they are a significant number of criminals who are here illegally. Even if you dont commit violent crimes you still cant just walk across the border and live here undocumented. You cant ignore the law to be a virtue signaler

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Anonymous #6 14w

Again, if you cared about crime you wouldn’t be so focused on immigrants (legal or illegal). If you were to deport every single illegal immigrant in this country there would be no meaningful drop in the overall crime rate. You wouldn’t still be just as likely to be the victim of a crime. That’s because immigrants commit significantly less crime per capita than US citizens. If you cared about crime you wouldn’t Go after criminals not innocent families.

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

And for non violent immigrants they undercut the middle class by being here illegally and taking labor jobs for pretty much slave wages. Why hire a normal american citizen including legal immigrants when you can hire an illegal for for less and not worry about following labor laws

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Anonymous #6 14w

*non violent illegal

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Anonymous #6 14w

But you don’t actually care about crime at all.

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

So after being provided with valid points you just say I dont care sbout crime at all? Yeah I do like the crime of being here illegally, the previously listed heinous crimes that have been committed by different illegals. You’re clearly the one who doesn’t care about crime you literally said “why should I care care if they are here legally or not?”

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Anonymous #6 14w

Immigrants are taking labor from US citizens. At the highest of Biden’s presidency when the problem of immigration was supposedly at its worst, the unemployment rate was around the 2% avg that we want. Furthermore, illegal immigrants provide a vital role in paying in to local, state, and federal tax revenue streams. How are you so wrong about everything you say? Is it embarrassing when nothing you say has a semblance of truth to it?

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Immigrants aren’t taking labor*

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Anonymous #6 14w

Valid points, here I’ll literally give you screenshots of two completely different studies showing that illegal immigrants commit significantly less crime than US citizens.

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Lets just assume all of that is true. How does change anything about crimes committed by illegal immigrants while here. We cant just ingore the law and let people come here with no legal process. If they are non violent I welcome them here as long as its legal. There are people who come here legally that I know and they personally hate illegal immigrants. I know of actual companies where I live that specifically that aim to hire illegal immigrants in favor of citizens because they them pay less

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Its insane tk just believe we can let people come here undocumented and do as they please. Population statistics arent accurate, crime statistics aren’t accurate, they would literally just be thousands and thousands of people who the government has no record of whatsoever

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Anonymous #6 14w

Why? If they are peaceful and productive members of society as they have shown to be then what’s the fucking problem? They are on aggregate a net benefit to society despite crossing the border illegally or overstaying a visa. Also the first study was conducted by Stanford researchers and the second was conducted by a non-profit public policy research organization. They are literally facts…

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Anonymous moderatemonkey 14w

Its not about how much crime they commit cause I know they on majority arent violent criminals but we still cant just let them come here with no legal process. Regardless of number there are still violent crimes committed by illegals that wouldn’t have happened had the border been more strict and they not came here so easily

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Anonymous #6 14w

We have records of illegal immigrants because they PAY TAXES. ICE and border patrol use those records to FIND THEM, that’s how we get a good idea of how many are here! That’s why Trump and the government can pretty accurately say how many illegal immigrants are in the country when they give numbers… You’re hurting my brain dude😂

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Anonymous #6 14w

No one is asking for completely open borders, but the problem with what is happening right now is two fold. The process of legally immigrating now is too hard and doesn’t give poor people the opportunity to legally immigrate without waiting years for the process to unfold because we don’t have enough funding for the border (that republicans for ‘some reason’ refuse to give funding for) and secondly, what is happening right now, where Trump is casting such a wide net that instead of actually

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Anonymous #6 14w

Dealing with people who shouldn’t be here, he’s practically only separating innocent families that are productive members of society and wasting hundreds of millions, if not billions in the process. Republicans have such an insane chokehold on people that they can say they are going to do all these seemingly “good” things for us like lowering deficit spending and deporting criminals and then they do the exact opposite and people like you defend them tooth and nail to the end. It’s insane.

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