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I challenge a conservative to defend the pro life position without relying on the bible
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Abortion is pro murder. Science says life starts at conception. Everybody has a right to life

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Liberal, agnostic and pro life

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I have no issue with pro life as long as they don’t impose their beliefs on other women and their bodies

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Imposing ur beliefs on others is what makes it “pro life.” If you say “I’m pro life for myself/I would never get an abortion, but other people can do what they want,” that is in, fact, being pro choice.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Everyone has a right to life except the women who die or have their lives derailed bc they get denied abortions apparently. 🫩

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

I am pro choice. I am pro let each woman decide for themselves what to do with their bodies

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Yeah but my point is if somebody isn’t imposing their beliefs on others they aren’t actually anti abortion, they’re pro choice.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Science doesn’t say “life starts at conception” bro there’s entire as human beings who are a genetic chimera of fused embryos and there’s tumors which have separate genetic signatures. DNA being different doesn’t make some cells a person.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 3w

Women who die from abortion is less then one percent. Their lives get derailed because they chose to have sex. It isn’t because abortion. They knew the risks, it’s their fault.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Tumor cells are genetically mutated. It’s still that specific persons dna because that cancer is only unique to them. Different dna does mean a different human was made. You can’t argue against it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

#1 was saying women die in childbirth because they can’t have abortions, though I appreciate you know abortions aren’t dangerous. The blame is the central part of why conservative abortion policy is the way it is. The moral backing is the claim that abortion is murder, but the implementation is based on the idea that women who have sex need to be punished. Studies have shown the way to reduce abortion is through easy contraceptive access and comprehensive sex ed. But conservatives oppose both.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Someone who is hurt in a car crash knew the risk of driving. Does this mean we don’t give them medical care? I know the risks of biking, I would still want care if I’m hit by a car. And that ignores how many abortions are married women who can’t afford another child, or due to fetal complications or danger to the mother, or the small proportion that are due to rape.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

The type of tumor I’m referring to are the category of parasitic twins known as fetus in fetu. They’re an embryo (which you think is a full person) that was largely absorbed by their twin and reduced to a tumor.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Banning abortion isn’t being talked about because we want to punish women, it’s just because it’s murder. Banning abortion would punish men too because it’ll force them to choose to have sex with the right person. It does the same thing for women. It will encourage people to not have sex with random people. I’m not sure what sex ed people need and how contraceptives aren’t easily accessible. I don’t know everything about birth control, but condoms are very cheap. Just not having sex is an option

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Too. Cause chances are, if the guy wants you to take birth control to just not wear a condom, he isn’t worth having sex with.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

So I would happily link you some studies if you would like, but basically in many parts of the country, teenagers are not taught how to have sex safely. They are told just to never have sex, and then they do it anyways because obviously, and then you have high rates of teen pregnancy. Teens don’t automatically know about condoms.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

The difference between driving and abortion is that you’re actively trying to kill someone during an abortion. You’re not doing that when you drive. You try to avoid anything when you’re driving. Again, don’t have sex, or use contraception. You know the circumstances of your life, don’t risk possibly having another kid. Less than one percent is due to rape and actual medical complications. It’s an exception. It doesn’t completely tear down the rule.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

I absolutely think we should reduce abortion rates. Not because I think it’s murder, but because I think reducing the rate of a medical procedure with some level of risk is important. Studies show that the abstinence-only education approach isn’t effective, and that just banning abortion tends to kill women via unsafe procedures more than reduce abortion rates.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Abortion wasn’t really politically controversial prior to the 70s. Many Catholics thought it was murder, but Protestants didn’t. It was part of a deliberate allying of Christian groups by Republican strategists. The view of abortion as being murder in America is a very recent phenomenon

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

I was raised in a Catholic context. I know that the rank and file motivation is that abortion is thought of as murder. But the implementation doesn’t match that. Conservative groups oppose good sex education and oppose easy access to condoms and contraceptives for minors, because they see that as encouraging sex. If abstinence-only education worked that’s one thing, but it just doesn’t. And abortion bans don’t work very well either.

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