Anonymous #1 5d

I made the take that we shouldn’t be using leaked sexual content to harass people and that it’s gross and just reinforcing societal norms about what men are allowed to be interested in sex, and most people just doubled down.

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Anonymous OP 5d

it’s less so about what he’s into but that he’s also a staunch conservative who supports an admin who hates sex workers and gender fluidity

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Anonymous #2 5d

I just think it’s gross to weaponize leaked sexual content, and think we should find it unnaceptable. As someone on your side, I’m too anxious to even talk about sex, for fear I might be shamed and harassed for my private sex life. Yall just want a justification to harass someone imo.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yes, they’re bad people. They actively encourage and endorse practices that make lives tangibly worse for minorities and vulnerable groups.

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Anonymous #2 5d

So what do you think people who are in to similar things as him, but agree with you that sex workers are cool an gender should be fluid should feel like watching people who should be supporting those things harassing someone for doing them? Am I supposed to feel comfortable? Is it supposed to make me feel supported? No - it’s to shame and reinforce the overall social standard at the same time. This is the same phenomenon that happens when people bodyshame “bad” people. It just hits others in

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Anonymous #2 5d

collateral in order to INTENTIONALLY reinforce the overall social expectation.

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Anonymous OP 5d

I am a sex worker. I don’t think a lot of people realize how little people care about your sex life, but how you treat others who are open about their sex kids and their gender. That’s why they’re getting so much shit. It’s shame of hypocrisy.

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Anonymous #2 5d

So when people are just shaming the things he’s into, and not the horrible narratives his family pushes, and the horrible things he does, how am I supposed to feel? The messaging is you all care more about his sexual deviancy and leaked sexual kinks than about the shitty stuff that he does. This is why I would kms if any sexual information about me leaked. Instantly.

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Anonymous OP 5d

I don’t care how you feel. You need to realize that what people are mocking him for would not be brought up if he wasn’t actively supportive of the things the conservative/MAGA movement pushed for. I would know because I engage with plenty of clients into the exact same stuff and most of them are open about it publicly and nobody cares

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Anonymous #2 5d

Because no, I don’t believe that’s the whole story, otherwise you wouldn’t be using gender roles and norms to try and perpetuate and reproduce them. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to be dominated or feminine or anything, and I’m tired of people shaming others for that. I’m so tired of people on my side shaming physical features that I share. It makes me feel entirely unwanted or cared for or valued. I’ll never vote for any candidate who makes me feel that way.

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Anonymous #2 5d

I entirely disagree. There’s a specific reason they’re picking this as the narrative, and it’s because it also reinforces typical gender and sex roles. They’re shaming someone who’s “bad” for being into something they (conservatives) think is bad for society. You all are just reinforcing this standard by levying it against him. The right already dislikes that behavior - the only harm you’re actually causing is people on your side who feel uncomfortable coming out about their sexual preferences.

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Anonymous OP 5d

There isn’t anything wrong with that. It is 100% wrong to endorse and encourage social behaviors and policies that discriminate against people that do like that though, as well as people who are gender fluid and sexually fluid. He would not be getting shit if he didn’t support the things he did

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Anonymous #2 5d

I get that you’re telling me how I feel an that nobody is worried about that, but it’s been my major criticism of the DNC for years - they don’t give a single fuck about reducing strain on gender roles and seek to actively reinforce them in just a slightly less militant way than the GOP.

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Anonymous OP 5d

You can disagree but only one of us here literally does this for a job and sees all types of political positions infused with sexual promiscuity. The right dislikes everything lol, why are you concerned with a group of people who already view entire groups of minorities as less than?

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Anonymous OP 5d

We aren’t talking about the DNC.

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Anonymous #2 5d

I just don’t feel like you respect me or are listening to anything I’m saying whatsoever. I don’t feel very comfortable rn in this conversation. It’s clear you’re just going to repeatedly dismiss everything I’ve said, and will refuse to entertain how your criticism and reinforces of a general role hurts anyone except him. I think this is intentionally missing my point - and quite frankly just feels disrespectful.

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Anonymous OP 5d

reinforcal* gender*

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Anonymous OP 5d

I don’t respect your position no. It’s dumb. It’s intentionally dense because it removes the context of why people dislike this action. You’re saying this to someone who literally makes their living in sex work, why do you think you know more about the subject of how people react to kinks than someone who does this full time?

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Anonymous #2 5d

We are absolutely talking about democrats and the left not caring about who they hurt, so long as they attack the republican. You are taking the DNC position on this - that’s why I mentioned that.

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Anonymous OP 5d

I’m not lmao, the DNC would not agree with me on this but you’re taking the GOP approach of having to be tolerant regardless of what the opposition does.

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Anonymous #2 5d

I mean it’s clear there’s nothing I can say that you’ll even listen or or respect. You read that I was into similar stuff as Noem, and instantly shamed me. You’re appealing to an authority as a sex worker to just constantly justify demeaning others. It’s shitty that because Noem is a horrible person, I have to deal with being harassed for things I like, that I go to therapy to stop being into because they’re not socially acceptable. You are unwilling to even have an honest conversation about

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Anonymous OP 5d

this topic. It genuinely feels like yall are just trying to justify reinforcing social norms because he’s someone you don’t like. I don’t believe for a moment you all wouldn’t also harass me for being into the kink, even tho I’m more progressive than most of this page.

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Anonymous OP 5d

I don’t care that you’re into that stuff. I care if you say it’s bad to do that and then go do that. What are you not getting lmao. You can’t be this dense

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Anonymous OP 5d

You can’t answer a single one of my questions and you want to cry that IM not engaging in good faith?

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Anonymous OP 5d

You’re ranting without actually answering

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Anonymous #2 5d

You said you don’t care how I feel about being shamed for something I like. What do you want me to say after that? You said you don’t respect me or my opinion - what do you want me to say after that? It seems like you just want me to be a fucking punching bad and put up with being harassed because I have a fucking kink. I’m tired of people harassing physical traits of shitty people. If this is the attitude of the modern democratic party - I should be reconsidering going third party.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 5d

So should I kill myself too then? I don’t support him or her, I voted for Harris, but I have similar kinks? I’d also be harassed by many of yall if my information got leaked? I’d rather die than have you all treat me like that.

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Anonymous OP 5d

I said I don’t care how you feel in response to you asking ME how you’re supposed to feel. That’s not on me to decide. Don’t be an idiot. I said I don’t respect your POSITION. Show me a screenshot when I said I don’t respect YOU. I’ll wait. If you are trying to be honest this should be easy.

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Anonymous #2 5d

So if conservatives thought I was bad, they’d leak my sexual content and harass me, and you’d see so issue with it from their perspective?

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Anonymous OP 5d

You’re so sensitive, I’m genuinely becoming concerned with your mental health

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Anonymous OP 5d

Answer my question I’ll answer yours hurry up

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Anonymous #2 5d

I’m good. I’ve said like eight times I don’t feel respected at all here and you’ve yet to express that you give a single fuck. You don’t give a fuck about the other person in the conversation, repeatedly ignored them saying they felt disrespected, and are treating me like shit because I said I was fucking done

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Anonymous OP 5d

No I don’t really give a shit about his kinks it’s more the other 99% of his personality that makes me okay with literally anything being said or done to him specifically. I don’t give a shit what you’re into. Have your fun. Don’t marry the head of the gestapo and that will continue to be my opinion on your private life.

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Anonymous #2 5d

I’m just done. You haven’t spoken to me politely. You haven’t given me any ounce of kindness, and you’ve just repeatedly made fucking comments to take shots at my intelligence. It’s just fucking rude to treat me like shit and expect me to want to continue to engage. I don’t enjoy being fucking degraded.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 5d

I notice none of you have answered the question of, Does this not cause problems, if you can justify ANYTHING against someone bad? Could conservatives not use this to justify harassing and leaking my sexual content?

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