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orangutan is a reactionary piece of shit. says we should send all europeans back to europe, denies this is ethnic cleansing, says genocide against white people is impossible and then blocks me. genuinely insane white savior complex at work.
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Anonymous 7w

perhaps if they actually talked to indigenous activists they could hear about things that are both actually possible and that could actually improve the lives of indigenous people in this country, instead of larping about revenge on people who largely have zero ties to any other country.

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Anonymous 7w

That is not what this means.

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Anonymous 7w

Homie is the definition of a performative utopian Marxist pay him no mind

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

Collapse the global supply chain and force 10 million natives to run this country by themselves, sending them deep into poverty! Don’t you know this is peak Justice!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

fucking literally, i have to assume they’re either baiting or have never read theory because there’s no basis for their argument

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

nothing to do with marxism. i am a socialist too (albeit not a marxist one). orangutan’s “ideas” don’t have any basis in marxist or socialist theory, they probably get them from tiktok

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7w

It’s what this means tho

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 7w

different post, they said they think all europeans should go back to europe (meaning the millions of white americans who largely have no real ties to european countries). i think it got deleted

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

That’s the problem ain’t it? Social media ideology

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

where did i say genocide the whites?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

no ties to european countries? the languages we speak are? our names are? our ancestors are? our religions are? we are europeans in diaspora !

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

You sound like an Israeli with this definition of indigenous

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

“No ties to Israel??? I speak Hebrew, my name is a Hebrew name, I’m Jewish, and my ancestors were from Israel so ha!”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

? indigeneity is a relationship to colonialism, and i am advocated for the dismantling of colonial states and a return of the settler classes to their indigenous lands. ‘israelis’ are indigenous nowhere because ‘israel’ is a settler colony built over Palestine. europeans cannot colonize europe. it was already done/is still happening. perhaps europeans should center a decolonial logic rather than the imperial one that has dictated us for centuries

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

much like ‘Americans’ are indigenous to nowhere. indigenous Americans are indigenous to Turtle Island, europeans to europe, Africans to Africa, et.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Hebrew wasn’t the language spoken in Palestine

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

English is the language spoken in the UK, where much of the european diaspora is from

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

you think the average white american speaks the language of their ancestors??? most americans barely even have culinary customs from where their ancestors immigrated. yes we’re obviously europeans in diaspora, that doesn’t mean it’s feasible for us to somehow integrate into the countries that our ancestors came from literal centuries ago. also christianity is not a european religion. i don’t think many pagans are running around the US (or Europe)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

we make false equivalences all we want. that does not make them true

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

Ah see I understand so we should build ethnostates because of a loose individual relationship with colonialism that makes sense 🙄

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

it literally was… and then aramaic, and then arabic. arabic is not the indigenous language of the levant dude… because arabs are indigenous to arabia. palestinians, lebanese etc. are however indigenous to the levant because they are more so culturally arabic rather than originating from arabia.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

because Europe was the first victim of colonialism. the pagan and other religions indigenous to europe were also eradicated by the same thing that stripped indigenous Americans and Africans of their religions. western christianity is european in every capacity, and its forcible exportation is what has itself become a part of the ‘white’ identity

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

i mean sure, but again how does that help a random american who has never left their town integrate into fucking hungary or poland. or god forbid findland with their uralic rather than indo-european language

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

*finland

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

well, how did our ancestors do it ?

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

Ethnically cleansing the Americas of Europeans isn’t the solution and zero native tribes desire that maybe try listening to Native activists

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

maybe try listening to me when i say no when has said a thing about ethnic cleansing

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

how is removing all people of specific ethnicities (europeans) from a certain place not ethnic cleansing? also how does this materially benefit indigenous people. or is the point just to make you feel morally superior

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

with great difficulty suffering poverty and discrimination? you’re arguing for the intentional destruction of the global economy for literally no benefit to a single person

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

What exactly is your plan to get all Europeans back to Europe exactly

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 7w

Come on surely you have a plan and this isn’t just some half-baked utopian theory you picked up off Instagram

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