Anonymous #1 15w

Under capitalism in America alone the winners = 1% of the population while the losers = 99%

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Anonymous OP 15w

It’s all perspective, 99% of Americans do not struggle (in fact 100% do, we all suffer from the human condition) and do not see themselves as losers. There are places in the world where the economic disparity is far worse.

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Anonymous #1 15w

American imperialism (which is tied to capitalism especially in the West) has caused the extremely poor economic conditions across the globe along with its European counterparts. (This is not to say other powers did not do this but it was not on the scale or economic process of euro-American). Americans definitely do have a privileged economic position in comparison to the world but the disparity within our own country & society is unacceptable and a moral plague.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Our children go hungry, our veterans homeless, and our schools underfunded, all while less than 1% of the population lives a life of such extreme luxury and wealth they are having private space races. That is unacceptable. Our economic system prioritizes existing wealth while draining those who work to live. Why do you defend this?

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Anonymous OP 15w

We don’t live in a utopia and an economic disparity will always exist and does exist in all economic systems. It’s unfortunate that it’s as big as a gap as it is now, and we should always be fighting to make it smaller. Fortunately in the United States it is much easier to get out of an economic hole than most countries, we have the privilege of loans (business and education), quality higher education, substantial job market, etc.

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Anonymous OP 15w

Children across the globe are starving, thankfully we live in a country where that issue isn’t as prevalent. It’s very unfortunate that homelessness and underfunded public schools exists at such a high rate in the United States, I think that we focus too much on cutting taxes than using them to support our citizens. There is a 1% in every single economic system, you can’t defend a specific one without being slightly hypocritical.

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Anonymous #1 15w

‘the privilege of loans’ lmfao

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Anonymous _orangutan 15w

Yeah, in some countries you’re shit out of luck if you don’t have the money to do things.

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Anonymous #1 15w

we live in one of two countries who refuses to recognize universal access to food as a basic human right. the other is actively committing genocide and ensuring that Gazans starve

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Anonymous #1 15w

Most loans are extremely predatory and only further many Americans into poverty conditions. They can be regulated but as we are seeing regulations are being slashed left and right by the republicans (and some democrats) allowing for greater benefits for the wealthy while hurting the poor. I’m not asking for a utopia- but we are living in a dystopia. Our system is designed to make us suffer so the rich can get richer.

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Anonymous #1 15w

you’re sol if you don’t have money in the US my guy

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Anonymous #1 15w

The American dream was killed by the capitalist class and their political allies.

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Anonymous _orangutan 15w

Human rights have nothing to do with our economic system but yeah it’s fucked up.

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Anonymous #1 15w

they literally do? the American project used Africans as chattel for the economic system..?

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Anonymous _orangutan 15w

I don’t have money and I have a car and go to college. Loans are amazing, you just have to use them intelligently

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Anonymous OP 15w

The American Dream was imperialism, idk if that’s something we ever wanted

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Anonymous _orangutan 15w

So did the rest of the world, I don’t get your point.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Again, referring to my prior comment- much of the global poverty is directly tied to Europe & American capitalistic-imperialism and colonization. Americans are not starving in the traditional sense but we are starving for nutrients. Our foods lack nutrients and are calorie dense meaning they make us unhealthy. Cheap unhealthy foods are cheap to make and sell better and are plastered all across the USA such as fast food joints.

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Anonymous #1 15w

yeah, no. you’re projecting what the white capitalist nations have done. you’re wrong

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Anonymous OP 15w

you’re trying to reason with a brick

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Anonymous #1 15w

Well human rights kinda do have to do with economic systems but especially in regards to capitalism bc without these safeguards (including regulations) the ideology of capitalism says to make the most money possible- there is no room for human beings in capitalism.

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Anonymous _orangutan 15w

Rude as hell for no reason at all, why should I respect you any further? I’m projecting that white capitalist nations have done what?

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Anonymous OP 15w

Poverty and hunger exists in other economic systems, sometimes more prevalent, how does this explain that capitalism is a cancer

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Anonymous OP 15w

Human rights have actually nothing to do with the economy, you sound like a Republican right now😭😭😭 no offense

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Anonymous #1 15w

Human rights have everything to do with an economy because a capitalist economy would prioritize capital over human beings and their inherent rights. We’ve seen this with slavery, Jim Crow & segregation laws, imperialism & white supremacy ideology -> colonialism.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Because it’s only under capitalism that it peaks and is “justified”

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Anonymous OP 15w

I’ll give you that slavery affects the economy, and if everybody had access to food because that food would have to be produced at a loss. I’d still argue that capitalism is just as much as a cancer as every other economic system.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Why does it matter if food is produced at a loss. We subsidize other sectors that the rich invest in at a loss. Food is necessary to life and is life not guaranteed in the founding documents of our society? I call capitalism a disease, a cancer, because it is under capitalism that capital is prioritized over human life and dignity. Because under capitalism people go hungry, not because of a lack of resources, but because of greed.

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Anonymous OP 15w

Food should be a human right in the US, I’m not arguing against that, that would be insane. As I understand it, capitalism in only the United States makes people go hungry because of greed. This doesn’t apply to capitalism in general, with specifically Europe as an example. I’m arguing that all economic systems are as cancerous as each other, and due to my inclination to not be so pessimistic, none of them I think of as cancerous.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Sorry it wasn’t so clear to you that’s what I was trying to imply

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Anonymous #1 15w

I don’t want this to come across as a backhand to Europe but they have the luxury of a system because of a few factors. They have a society that is generally founded on communalism, while ours is heavily individualistic to a point that it is detrimental. Our extreme military spending has also allowed for them to decrease theirs and divert that money towards social programs. Our government also caters to the elites first and the general public last.

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Anonymous OP 15w

If anything it’s a compliment to Europe, but yeah winners and losers all around the board always, even in communism if it was ever implemented

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Anonymous #1 15w

Will ever be**

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Anonymous #1 15w

So that means we don’t try to fix it? Because I’d consider socialism far less cancerous than capitalism

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Anonymous OP 15w

“It’s unfortunate that [the economic disparity is] as big as a gap as it is now, and we should always be fighting to make it smaller.” Socialism has only ever brought more oppression to specific people. Humans always find a way to fuck up a seemingly perfect idea. Capitalism is a system that isn’t controlled by one person or party as opposed to socialism, communism, etc. that’s why I think it’s the most effective. When one person or party controls the entire economy, it can easily be manipulated

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Anonymous #1 15w

with malicious intent.

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Anonymous #1 15w

There can be more than one party under socialism

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Anonymous #1 15w

It’s already being manipulated with malicious intent under the current system.

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Anonymous OP 15w

The people that benefit the most always try their best to manipulate the system in their favor. This has happened in every single economic system. In capitalism there are lengths that are taken to try to prevent this. In socialism it would be cool to see a system that is run by the people in a healthy way but it just hasn’t happened, somebody has always taken absolute control and oppress certain people through it.

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