“Why are you against the capture of Maduro but fine with the killing of Saddam Hussain???”
Yeah I’m sorry that I wasn’t out protesting the Iraq invasion at -2 in 2003 :(
i don’t think the state should be able to kill its own citizens, let alone kill or abduct the leaders of other nations. sort of an American exceptionalism thing, ignoring the larger trend as it coincides with european colonialism and imperialism
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Anonymous13w
So you would have been protesting killing saddam hussain? very nice 👍
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Anonymous#113w
abu ghraib more accurately, i know you don’t know what that is so you should look it up. plenty to protest back then.
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Anonymous#113w
Yeah that wasn’t right either. Saddam Hussain was horrible (and so is Maduro) but these interventions never go well.
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Anonymous#213w
that's not what the original post was about gamgalang
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Anonymous#113w
yeah it was dumbass maybe read it again
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Anonymous#213w
I’m confused, what was the US’ role in Abu Ghraib pre-2003?
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Anonymous#213w
very nice
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Anonymous#113w
indeed
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Anonymous#213w
Abu Ghraib wasn’t right either.
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Anonymous#213w
You don't mention abu ghraib
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Anonymous#113w
i’m gonna touch you
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Anonymous#313w
There wasn’t any. Abu Ghraib was an Iraqi prison where human rights abuses happened before the US did the same thing but “for freedom”.
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Anonymous#213w
😏
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Anonymous#213w
Guys stop arguing, I was mostly referring to the killing of Saddam Hussain and not the invasion as a whole, but yeah the invasion was unjust.
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Anonymousberet_girl13w
So would you have deposed the killing of him
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Anonymous#113w
To kill Sadam we had to invade Iraq and then we took him to the US where he was put on trial and hung. So yes
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Anonymous#113w
Ideally, he should have been arrested and tried by the UN and a more democratic government should have been established. I’m not sure how that would work because it would have to be done independent of the interests of any other nations, maybe the UN could do it somehow?
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Anonymousberet_girl13w
the UN is a vessel for imperialism more than it is for democratic world governance
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Anonymousberet_girl13w
Even then you still have to illegally invade Iraq likely on the bullshit lies about WMDs and you still have the US and friends trying to implement regime change which leads to a massive power vacuum
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Anonymous_orangutan13w
Do you have any better ideas? Every powerful institution is a vessel for imperialism and a populist revolt would likely end up with another dictatorship.
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Anonymous#413w
There aren’t many good options on how to depose a dictator. It’s best to find the optimal route or just not to do it. Hussain was bad but power vacuums are unpredictably dangerous.
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Anonymousberet_girl13w
removing the 5 permanent seats on the UNSC and giving all member-states equal representation is a good start
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Anonymous_orangutan13w
Yeah it really is. Unfortunately I’m not in charge of the UN.