Anonymous #1 16w

very true. If not the constitution then it was during one of the great wars of after 9/11

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Anonymous #2 16w

after a crime in committed, detectives look into the person’s records

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Anonymous OP 16w

Let me rephrase, how is guilt and innocence determined?

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Anonymous #2 16w

this is after a crime was blatantly committed

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Anonymous OP 16w

So how is guilt and innocence determined?

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Anonymous #2 16w

Key word blatantly, as in it’s already been proven

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Anonymous #2 16w

this is consistently on the news in new england, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles have been deported a lot in the past few months

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Anonymous OP 16w

“the constitution grants this right & if not, it’s this, & if not…..”

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Anonymous OP 16w

It doesn’t matter if it’s “blatant”

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Anonymous OP 16w

Every single human being that has stepped foot into the sovereignty of the US is entitled to due process under the constitution. Do you think the constitution is not important?

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Anonymous #2 16w

i’m talking about people who have already been tried

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Anonymous OP 16w

Then what are you arguing about? What does the executive “have the power to override” if not due process?💀

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Anonymous OP 16w

Also being “affiliated” with a gang is not a crime…

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Anonymous #2 16w

I’m not the one arguing. The executive power portion is in regard to the deportation, which people think should get its own due process that I disagree with for convicted criminals.

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Anonymous #2 16w

It becomes organized crime at that point

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Anonymous OP 16w

Yea you get due process from immigration judges. Do you know what branch they fall under?

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Anonymous OP 16w

Gang affiliation is not a crime. Google is your friend.

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Anonymous #2 16w

Likely federal considering it’s a federal issue. What does that have to do with anything????

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Anonymous #2 16w

Gang affiliated CRIME is a separate crime though

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Anonymous OP 16w

Sure, but gang affiliation itself, is not a crime.

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Anonymous OP 16w

“Federal” isn’t a branch of the federal government, but yes they are federal. If you had to pick between judicial, legislative, and executive, which branch do you think immigration judges would fall under?

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Anonymous #2 16w

judicial like every other judge 💀what kinda question is that

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Anonymous OP 16w

Oh so close, immigration judges actually fall under the executive branch which the Supreme Court ruled unanimously recently, Trump can’t overturn.

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Anonymous #2 16w

sorry I don’t keep up with recent supreme court rulings, happy you got your gotcha moment. Too bad I don’t care because the executive branch should override for deporting convicted criminals anyways :)

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Anonymous OP 16w

The executive branch meaning the immigration judges😂

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Anonymous OP 16w

Also where in the constitution does it even say what you’re saying?

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Anonymous #2 16w

I think of it as the president and his cabinet. If the supreme court recently ruled immigration judges into that for now, then sure

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Anonymous OP 16w

The Supreme Court didn’t rule that immigration judges magically fell under the executive branch. They fall under the executive branch because they are employees of the Executive Office of Immigration Review (EOIR), which falls under the umbrella of the US DOJ as a sub-agency.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 16w

i said it in another post which you commented on

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Anonymous OP 16w

Okay, I comment on a lot of posts, you’re gonna need to be more specific.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 16w

sorry i don’t

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