Anonymous #1 2d

I never even understood this stupid talking point

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You mean what

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Anonymous #1 2d

Have you not read the autopsy reports?🤣 yeah he was a drug addict & criminal. What did Charlie do that wasn’t good for the community/country? Black people decided to burn cities down while Charlie Kirk fans prayed. See the difference? See who’s in the wrong? Yall seriously cannot be this blind.

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Anonymous #3 2d

So by that logic every criminal and drug addict should just be killed. Personally Kirk running an org that my school shooter was heavily involved in is enough for me to say Charlie wasn't good for my community.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Charlie Kirk engaging in the worst faith debate rhetoric propagandizing Gen Z spreading trumps malicious message defending January 6th insurrectionists who attacked our capital saying they should rightfully be pardoned was an instrument and a tool in a propaganda machine in a top down approach working from the president of the United States downwards just because Charlie Kirk never went before a jury and was found guilty doesn’t mean I can’t say he was a piece of shit

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Anonymous #3 2d

Charlie Kirk fans (maga) destroyed the United states capital attacked my representative in congress because they were sore losers their cult leader lost the election and wanted to overthrow the government what are we talking about here?

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Anonymous #3 2d

kirk led a modern hitler youth program, called for his audience to bail out attempted political assassins and called for the execution of biden, among other violent rhetoric and violent calls to action kirk was a terrorist

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Anonymous #4 2d

It’s just them acting like a Billy Badass on the internet bc they would never do anything in real life. They’d never actually hit a protestor, they’re just trying to sound cool online and it doesn’t work 😂

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Anonymous #3 2d

based

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Anonymous #7 2d

Everything you said was an opinion i wholeheartedly disagree Charlie was not a pillar of virtue he was a malicious propagandist who spread lies and misinformation and Charlie Kirk did die of an OD I’m not sure if you read Charlie’s autopsy report but it wasn’t actually the bullet that killed Kirk it was fentantnly as well

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Anonymous #7 2d

And it was self inflicted Charlie Kirk spread hatred and propaganda and defend insurrectionists attacking the capitol and Donald trumps coup attack it was self inflicted ever heard of FAFO?

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Anonymous OP 2d

the US capitol was not destroyed, it was barely even damaged

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Anonymous OP 2d

REALLY so me watching his neck explode is him dying of an OD 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous #7 2d

Yeah the same way conservatives tell me watching George Floyd die on camera with a cop kneeing on his neck was him dying of a fentanyl OD correct🤣🤣

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Anonymous OP 2d

Besides he was nicer to libs than anyone else on the right you literally killed the devil’s advocate and are trying to treat it like a net positive because you don’t agree with his beliefs.

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Anonymous OP 2d

one of those injuries is external and one is external

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Anonymous #7 2d

Charlie Kirk was one of if not the worst conservative on the right I don’t know how you’ve been brainwashed into thinking this he was one of the worst bad faith debaters who used his platform to spread negativity and hatred it’s not that I disagree with his views it’s that Charlie’s a malicious liar 😂😂😂

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Anonymous #7 2d

“You literally killed the devils advocate” I’m sorry did I personally kill Charlie Kirk? Or was it some Mormon Utah conservative kid who grew up in a MAGA household named Tyler robinson 😂😂

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Anonymous OP 2d

y’all don’t realize that making fun of kirk radicalizes people more. conservatives are saying he was moderate now. they’re going to people like nick fuentes

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Anonymous OP 2d

🤣🤣🤣the fact you believe this shows you know NOTHING about the actual far right extremists

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Anonymous #7 2d

Your argument is stupid and brain dead 😂 “read the autopsy report” if the autopsy report showed George Floyd was killed by fent and the knee had nothing to do with it Derek chauvin would’ve went free but he didn’t you guys just parrot the same stupid talking point over and over and over again even though it’s a lie so if you want to engage in brain rot than I’ll do the same😂 Charlie Kirk died of a coke overdose

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Anonymous OP 2d

also his whole premise at every debate was prove me wrong an inherently open position and what negativity was he spreading stop whining and get your facts straight

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Anonymous #8 2d

The conservatives have already been radicalized look at the potus I reject this stupid notation that conservatives are just waiting for Dems to do something to be unhinged they’re ALREADY UNHINGED 😂these people tried to overthrow the government in 2020 how much more radicalized can get it get?

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Anonymous #7 2d

The fact that I believe what?

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Anonymous OP 2d

That officer would have gone free but he wasn’t able to submit the handbook that states that he was instructed to use that hold in court because the trial had already become a witch hunt not due process

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Anonymous #7 2d

He literally debated purely in bad faith when Kirk would be getting blown out on a topic he pivots and then starts quizzing his debate opponent he would intentionally pivot and switch the conversations you guys just don’t see it bc you guys all debate the same way

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Anonymous OP 2d

That right wing extremism looks like charlie kirk. Most extremists actually reject his views because they think he’s too soft on you libtards

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Anonymous #7 2d

Defending Donald Trump is impossible u can only debate in bad faith which Kirk does and which you’re doing as we speak or you’re just dumb either or

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Anonymous #7 2d

If you believe this I need you to turn off Fox news

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Anonymous OP 2d

I’m sorry everyone does this what is your point.

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Anonymous #7 2d

If you’re trying to debate me of the difference between the Fuentes and the Kirk’s I know the difference the difference is they’re both extreme that’s what you fail to realize the entirety of the Republican Party that follows Donald Trump ALL of the maga republicans are radicals

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Anonymous OP 2d

Also he was never getting blown out even if he was presenting the truth poorly

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Anonymous OP 2d

it can go so much further. do you know what nick fuentes is like? an actual proud white supremacist, holocaust denying, misogynist who thinks gay people, black people and jews should die. and now i’m seeing a bunch of people who were previously chill, become huge fans of him publicly

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Anonymous OP 2d

Trump isn’t far right he sold out to Aippac

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Anonymous #7 2d

Charlie Kirk is one of the worst debaters which is why he avoids debates with any real debater example Destiny Charlie Kirk was never going to ever debate Destiny bc Destiny would expose how awful Kirk is when Kirk went to Cambridge he got dog walked people like Charlie Kirk debate 19 year olds bc he needs to do bad faith debate tactics on college kids

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Anonymous #8 2d

Lowkey based imo

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Anonymous #8 2d

“It can go so much further”🤡🤡 Donald Trump has deployed the national guard on cities tried to steal the election is attacking the media is attacking the free press is going after his political opponents with faulty prosecutions you’re a clown America is already on fire nobody cares about the groypers I care about the party that currently controls all 3 branches of government causing havoc they’re already radicalized

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Anonymous #8 2d

And do you know why his message resonates because he isn’t a fake beta male who bends over like a good boy to Israel and the elite

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Anonymous #7 2d

I don’t get where you’re going with this is this just turning into an I hate Israel thing

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Anonymous OP 2d

My point is charlie kirk isn’t extreme and he was a good man because at least he was able to define morality.

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Anonymous #7 2d

“He was able to define morality” that has to be one of the biggest nothing burger statements ever imagine if I just said “my point is insert any random person” isn’t x because they were good and they could define morality you have to admit what you just said was a complete nothing burger you said absolutely nothing just now

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Anonymous #7 2d

everyone gish gallops, deflects, pivots and refuses to engage in good faith debate? projection is one helluva drug bro. careful or you'll OD like kirk

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Anonymous #7 2d

Oh I just realized what you were saying here no everyone doesn’t just do this you are projecting bad faith debaters grifters people who can’t coherently defend their positions bc their entire life’s are and beliefs are built and live breathe and die on talking points and recycled rhetoric those are the type of people who engage in that type of debate style people like Charlie Kirk

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Anonymous OP 2d

fine if it’s such a non point than you define mortality

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Anonymous #5 2d

Yep people in politics avoid tough questions always have always will unless they’re like that in which case they get labeled as extreme

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Anonymous #7 2d

Oh this is another one of Charlie’s debate tactics I’m not going to engage with it but yeah you basically are getting blown out of the water in this current conversation hear one word than grasp onto that word bc you think it’s a strong point and anchor pivot to something else you can talk about bc you think you’ll win it I’ll answer just for fun but morality are just your principles for easy understanding lmfao what a stupid pivot though good one and good bad faith debate bro tactics

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Anonymous OP 2d

I’m not getting blown out you just keep stating your state approved truth and think that’s what winning looks like

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Anonymous #7 2d

Bro you haven’t engaged in a. Single tough question or anything this entire conversation😂😂since we’re pivoting and you gotta answer tough questions riddle me this then how can Charlie Kirk be such a good guy? And yet be such a staunch supporter for Donald Trump pardoning everyone involved in J6 even the people convinced of sadistic conspiracy? Let’s see if you can answer this question let’s pivot everywhere 😂😂😂

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Anonymous #7 2d

Okay if you’re not getting blown out of the water than answer my question

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Anonymous OP 2d

your turn

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Anonymous #7 2d

My turn you didn’t answer my question you just gave me a ramble about abortion and some other random stuff I asked you how is Charlie Kirk a good person and all this other stuff you claim and yet he supports violent insurrectionists who committed sadistic conspiracy people who attacked the congress people and the capitol receiving full and complete blanket pardons to go free that was the question I asked you I’m asking again

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Anonymous OP 2d

I did answer your question but you don’t like the answer nothing I can do

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Anonymous #7 2d

again, projection is like crack. don't confuse the bad faith debate slop and you gobble up for a standard in debate and discourse

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Anonymous #5 2d

projection stops when introspection starts. The left is by definition uncritical of self and labels any spilt from mainstream dogma as bigotry

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Anonymous #7 2d

You didn’t answer my question I asked you a question about Charlie Kirk defending and being okay with the pardons of people who attacked the capital and you tell me he supports anti abortion laws “showed grace and respect to the people he interacted with” that just isn’t true like all you said was nothing you’re incapable of engaging with anything going on rn

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Anonymous OP 2d

so your response to my statement is nuh uh and as far as the capitol riot that whole thing I agree with pardoning those people

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Anonymous OP 2d

I think it’s fine those people aren’t inherently dangerous to society them being pardoned is not that big of a deal especially in the context of other riots (blm) and the presidential tradition of pardons to curry favor with one’s base.

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Anonymous #7 2d

it must be so easy regurgitating nonsensical drivel like "the left is by definition uncritical of self" and thinking that has any meaning outside of the cobweb infested recesses of your mind

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Anonymous #5 2d

it’s the truth and regurgitating an idea next to no one is forwarding is an achievement of all time ig almost like it was an original idea that was formed using facts and evidence.

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Anonymous #5 2d

also if I’m supposed to be the one in bad faith why am I the one always being insulted on the basis of my intelligence

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Anonymous #7 2d

i promise you're not the first dodo to claim the left is uncritical of itself. i know it would be a big deal for you to have your first novel thought but that wasn't it buddy. you're regurgitating meaningless nonsense and trying your best to pivot away from you happily admitting that you engage in bad faith debate tactics

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Anonymous #7 2d

My response to your statement was telling you that you didn’t answer my question you pivoted around me and started telling me irrelevant stupid stories about Charlie that were irrelevant to the question I asked you

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Anonymous #7 2d

What proof or evidence do you have those those people are inherently dangerous to society? One of them was sending death threats to Hakeem Jeffries one of them got killed during a traffic stop because he tried to attack a cop

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Anonymous #7 2d

And I’m curious if it isn’t that big of a deal than you would have absolutely 0 problems 0 issues with Joe Biden pardoning every single person relating to the BLM protests/riots a simple Yes or No answer will suffice for this no pivoting

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Anonymous #5 2d

I would define calling someone a dodo bad faith wouldn’t you and if I guess you’ll have to take my word for it when I say It is extremely evident that the left likes echo chambers more than a free exchange of ideas

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Anonymous OP 2d

no. I don’t really care that much it would be cool if the victims got repaid though and the act still showed up on the offenders records as an actionable solution.

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Anonymous OP 2d

I’ll clarify my statement, they aren’t any more dangerous than the rioters Biden pardoned.

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Anonymous #7 2d

Also lemme just say throwing a fit about conservatives doing the same crap ya’ll do is priceless none of this relates back to charlie’s character btw so you’re off topic which I would describe as “bad faith” as well

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Anonymous #7 2d

this is not a debate. debates are structured, formal and moderated. you're being corrected for spreading disinfo aboyt floyd's murder. everything you've claimed is either an opinion or a lie of omission

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Anonymous #7 2d

"it is extremely evident" = "trust me bro"

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Anonymous #5 2d

Then why you whining at me about being in bad faith arguments if no rules apply Also Ya’ll Ain’t Cited A Single Source why you mad that I haven’t either cry me a river honestly

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Anonymous #7 2d

you pointed out that i was rude (ad hom) to deflect away from you admitting you engage in numerous bad faith tactics. the thing is this isn't some formal debate where i need to avoid that or i'll be scored down. being rude doesn't undermine my point in a normal conversation like this. it's just rude. however, your shifting, pivoting, deflecting, lying by omission (etc) does undermine your point in a normal conversation like this

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Anonymous #5 2d

So I gotta play by your rules but you don’t?

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Anonymous #7 2d

onus of proof is on the one making the claims. you claimed he died from an OD and there is literally no proof of that. courts determined murder from asphyxiation

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Anonymous #7 2d

there are no "rules" kid. we're having a discussion. you can use bad faith tactics all you want and nobody is scoring it... but the tactics you're engaging in undermine your point me saying "[some argument]... also you're a fool" doesn't undermine the [some argument] part. it's just rude. whereas what you're doing is illogical, reactionary and rhetorically weak

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Anonymous #7 2d

He was a racist piece of shit the world is better without

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Anonymous #7 2d

He was a racist sexist homophobic transphobic asshole. Boohoo hoo I only feel bad for the people who were in the crowd

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