Anonymous #1 4d

I was referring to actual sex

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Anonymous #2 4d

idk why we gotta stick to like the ten commandments rules when life is just a TEENY bit different now

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Anonymous #2 4d

There were forms of birth control before the ten commandments even existed.

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

Granted at the time it was crocodile shit and mercury but the idea was still there

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Anonymous OP 4d

So what you’re saying is I can keep getting pegged by transmascs and topping transfems as much as I want. Nice. That’s what I planned on doing anyways.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

How is this obsolete? Why spin the wheel and chance having something you’re not prepared for. Be intentful because then people start killing because it’s seen as “inconvenient”

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Anonymous #4 4d

1. Shouldn’t matter, 2. Abstinence is the only 100% birth control.

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Anonymous OP 4d

While I do agree with you that abortion shouldn’t be used as a plan C, it’s not just for an “inconvenience”. Condoms can fail, women can be raped, teenagers can be stupid.

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Anonymous OP 4d

So you haven’t had it?

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

gotta love mercury

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Anonymous #4 4d

Why does that matter and why would I answer that to a random person?

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Anonymous #1 4d

that’s not sex so sure

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Anonymous OP 4d

is oral sex sex?

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Anonymous OP 4d

It kind of does matter if you telling me not to have it

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

But it shouldn’t justify killing someoke

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Anonymous OP 4d

What about like oral sex or sex between women or between men?

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

Or fetuses can be deformed and potentially cause medical emergencies where abortions are necessary, I’m pretty sure ectopic pregnancies count as abortions, sometimes a woman goes into septic shock even if the fetus is still alive, the list goes on.

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Anonymous #6 4d

Strawman argument completely apples to oranges. One is a transportation option and the other is the way to create human life

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Anonymous OP 4d

A transportation option with a higher chance of death to actual born people

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Anonymous OP 4d

so what is sex according to the sexpert

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Anonymous OP 4d

I would say rape, incest, and pedophilia are justifications but for the other instances I would say you’re right there should be considerable thought put into it. I also think it should be left up to the mother for the final decision.

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Anonymous OP 4d

thats.. not really what strawmanning means?

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

The whole “but what if it kills the mother” is an old and “obsolete” argument. No one is arguing for no abortion in the case where it endangers the mothers life. But we shouldn’t be killing babies because you made a poor choice and drew the short stick

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Anonymous OP 4d

false equivalence if anything but its not false

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

I agree!

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Oh for sure for sure I didn’t even consider that, but I don’t think that’s what op was referring to, normally in those cases the mother actually wants a baby and sadly it just didn’t work out. I believe they meant voluntary abortions

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Anonymous OP 4d

People are arguing for that a lot actually, to the point where a hospital deemed it acceptable to use a brain dead woman’s body to keep a fetus inside alive. Sometimes they don’t care if the woman is dead 😭😭 so

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Anonymous magenta_lungs 4d

Sex is sex? Intercourse sex? see how you have to add a description or word before the different versions of sex to describe it? Oral sec, homosexual sex, etc. I said sex just sex

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

I can see that, yeah, but a lot of the time when people argue for no abortions they argue for NOOO abortions.

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Anonymous #2 4d

It’s misrepresentation of my argument which is straw manning and abortion kills wayyyy more than car crashes.

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Anonymous OP 4d

so anal sex isnt sex?

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Impossible. Some abortions are spontaneous, all miscarriages are abortions…. I mean if that means we can somehow get rid of miscarriages then maybe I’ll hear them out but I doubt that’s what they mean.

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Anonymous #2 4d

ohhhh i see how we got mormons now

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Anonymous OP 4d

Honestly man, I get your point, in fact I agree with your stance even if I have a conflicting side (for my own personal reasons) but this is a very complex issue that I feel bottom lines into a need for better sexual education and more autonomy for women.

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Anonymous OP 4d

its not a misrepresentation its drawing a comparison between two things that are similar to some respect with the rates of occurrences. to say abstinence is the only form of effective birth control and say no sex bc nothing else is 100% is indeed like saying you should only walk because cars or trains or buses or planes have fatality rates while walking doesnt

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

Lawmakers who have placed a stricter ban on abortions in some states have a ‘heartbeat’ law, where as long as a heartbeat is detected doctors aren’t allowed to perform an abortion. This has led to a number of cases where women in septic shock nearly lost their lives because their fetus’s heart was still beating. I think this is a matter of lawmakers being misinformed about abortions and not really what pro life people mean, but it’s where their movement has currently ended up regardless so idk.

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Anonymous OP 4d

they didnt change what you said, there is no representation.

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Anonymous OP 4d

Imagine how much less unwanted pregnancies there would be if everyone was having protected sex and access to birth control vs just preaching abstinence unless you want a kid and once you have kids to never have sex again (a LOT of abortions are also from couples who already have children and are married)

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Anonymous OP 4d

So with the power of the phrase “heterosexual sex” I have now removed all sex from existence! We did it guys. Sex doesn’t exist anymore! Time to have sexn’t instead!

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

I personally agree with the structured trimester law that the supreme court threw out when they overturned Roe v Wade (where it was determined voluntary abortions were acceptable in the first trimester, special circumstance in the second and only if the mothers life was in danger in the third). But now it’s complicated again for some reason.

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Anonymous #6 4d

like people WILL have sex, if they know what sex is or if theyve never heard of it, because thats literally how reproduction works for every species (that doesnt do mitosis) preaching abstinence and then shutting out everything else has a zero percent chance of working to prevent unwanted or unplanned pregnancies

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Anonymous OP 4d

That’s fair but I do feel you should consider the feedback here, like you’re right but what you’re talking about would be more properly described as unprotected vaginal sex with penetration. At least that’s the legal/medical term

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Anonymous OP 4d

Wdym, you’re making a risk vs reward argument. Your argument relies on the fact that every time you choose have sex you accept the risk of conceiving a child. The other person’s argument relies on the fact that every time you get in your car you accept the risks of getting in to an accident. The arguments are the same……

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Anonymous #4 4d

It doesn’t matter if i I have, if you must know I haven’t because I know i’m not ready in the off chance I’ll have a kid

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Anonymous OP 4d

And that’s your decision to make with YOUR body. You shouldn’t police the bodies of other people, though.

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Anonymous OP 4d

So what you’re telling me to do and not do is contradicting. If I told you how to drive or if I told you should not drive at all untill you can buy a car full out, wouldn’t it make sense that me telling you not to drive, that I should know how to drive as well? It wouldn’t make sense if I told you not to or that you shouldn’t at all just because I’m waiting to get my license when I’m able to pay off a car without a loan then I’ll learn to drive

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Anonymous dr.apple 4d

Did it or did it not prevent pregnancy checkmate liberal

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Anonymous #2 4d

pennyroyal tea bay bee! literal fuckin poison!

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