Anonymous #1 10w

Are you stupid?

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Anonymous #1 10w

the 5th amendment is what im referring to and it is indeed in the bill of rights

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Anonymous #2 10w

I’m assuming OP is talking about birthright citizenship, it really isn’t a fundamental part if we lasted 100 years without it

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Anonymous #1 10w

It is most definitely fundamental because it paved the way for black Americans to be treated fairly under the law. Very fundamental, if you ask me.

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Anonymous #2 10w

His whole logic is if it wasn’t there when it was created, we didn’t need it. A brainless logic that goes against the idea of the constitution being a growing doctrine for a democracy.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Like protections against slavery weren’t there originally, but we sure need them

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Anonymous #3 10w

I’m not saying we don’t need them, but by definition they are not fundamental.

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Anonymous #1 10w

Its ok, Ur an idiot. I dont expect u to understand

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Anonymous #1 10w

fundamental ≠ foundational. but also us democracy didn’t really start until after the civil war. you don’t have democracy with slavery. so it is even fundamental to us democracy.

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Anonymous #1 10w

i get what ur saying, but i meant fundamental in the “of central importance” definition

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Anonymous OP 10w

i think the 14th amendment is of central importance to the united states. beyond the citizenship and equal protection clauses, it’s the only reason the bill of rights applies to the states. otherwise, if a state wanted to nationalize every farm within it to establish soviet-style communism, for instance, they could. if a state wanted to ban MAGA hats, they could.

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Anonymous #4 10w

How is it the only reason the Bill of Rights applies to the states? Federal law was absolute before the Civil War

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Anonymous #2 10w

the incorporation doctrine relies on it. federal was absolute, but the bill of rights restricted the actions of the federal government only, not the states, until the incorporation doctrine under the 14th amendment changed that

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