Anonymous #3 22h

I live in Alabama and people are having a meltdown over a trans woman being elected as a representative. it’s disgusting. Being trans doesn’t make a person less capable of doing their job yet people are so hyperfixated on that it’s disturbing

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Anonymous #3 22h

I’m not Muslim or Trans but I respect your right to live the way you want to

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Anonymous #2 21h

Empirically no

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Anonymous #2 21h

whatd we do now

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Anonymous #4 20h

Islamic extremism ≠ Islam

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Anonymous #5 19h

It means that empirically, Islamic extremism is second only to far-right extremism in perpetrating political violence.

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Anonymous #4 19h

Pretty sure the US government is on top of literally everyone in the world in political violence

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Anonymous #1 19h

I know you’re probably being purposely obtuse, but there’s a distinction between macro-level state sponsored violence and micro-level individual or group perpetrated political violence. With regard to the latter, the far-right and Islamic extremism account for the vast majority (near 95%)of all pol violence. You’re trying to have a separate conversation ab a distinct concept.

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Anonymous #4 19h

You said “political violence” not “individual or group political violence”, big difference there.

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Anonymous #1 19h

No, there’s not. Not at all actually. Political violence as a political science concept ordinarily refers to that perpetrated by individuals or groups. Again, state sponsored violence is a separate concept with distinct measures.

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Anonymous #4 19h

State violence is inherently political violence what are we talking about

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Anonymous #1 19h

I am using the terms as they are used in the literature. If you’d like to take issue with the nomenclature, you’re doing so with the wrong person.

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Anonymous #1 19h

See above. You obviously have no familiarity with this particular field. You can continue to be obtuse all you’d like.

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Anonymous #4 19h

This only makes sense if you think that violence is a thing that only an individual or group can do, rather than something that can be systemic.

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Anonymous #1 19h

It absolutely can be systemic. That’s not what political scientists are examining though when they set out to identify which ideologies perpetrate the majority of political violence. Again, political violence can be state sponsored, but that is not what is of consideration in this particular context. Why do I have to explain this so many times. You’d need different studies with different measures and differently methodology. If you’d like to find that out, that’s all you.

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Anonymous #4 18h

You said political violence. A term with a much broader meaning that extends beyond individuals and groups. You then said that political scientists don’t specify when they’re talking about state or systemic violence vs when they’re talking about political violence done by individuals or groups i.e. mass shootings or the broad range of things categorized as “terrorism”. Do you understand the point I’m making here?

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Anonymous #1 18h

Again, why are you taking this up with me. I am using the term as it is used in the particular literature that I’m referring to. Take it up with those authors? Take it up with the people who applied that particular meaning in their investigations of ideologically perpetrated political violence? Lmao dude why are you arguing this with me. You’re a college student, you should know that words acquire meaning depending on the context in which they are used.

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Anonymous #1 18h

If you’d like to dispute their findings on the ground that they were overly narrow with their investigations and with their particular definition of that concept, take it up with them. Everyone who reads the literature has no problem quickly identifying that the considerations are predominantly micro-level because it’s apparent from the context. If you actually read the literature, you’d do the same.

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Anonymous #7 18h

Rightttt, just violence perpetrated by people of Islam and in furtherance of its express teachings. And for the record, my stats were just for the US. Islamic extremism political violence is #1 globally both in frequency of events and fatalities caused by transnational terrorism and/or political violence.

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Anonymous #3 17h

Muslims do not support LGBTQ+ you know that right? Their religion is used to excuse homophobia, same as with Christianity…

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Anonymous #3 17h

Calling a religion that unironically wants you dead “beautiful” is fucking crazy.

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Anonymous #4 17h

Do yall know there’s more versions of Islam than just the extremist fundamentalist movements, right? The ones in the US are overwhelmingly indifferent to the lgbt

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Anonymous #8 17h

The Quran literally prohibits same-sex relationships and says marriage should only be between man and woman as god intended. It is considered one of the major sins of Islam.

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Anonymous #10 16h

So does the Bible, a lot of Christians are either indifferent or actively support the lgbt community. Have you ever talked to a Muslim before?

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Anonymous #10 16h

Also you say they Muslims want gay people dead yet I see a lot more violence towards gay people coming from Christian nationalist type than Muslims here

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Anonymous #8 16h

*that

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Anonymous #8 16h

I am an atheist. I view Christianity and Islam equally as religions that perpetuate conservative, patriarchal, homophobic, misogynistic beliefs. Both the Bible and the Quran perpetuate harmful ideology.

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Anonymous #8 16h

When did I say Muslims want gay people dead? I never said that. I simply said that the Quran states that homosexuality is a major sin. Which is a fact. It’s the same as Christianity, both religions perpetuate homophobic ideology.

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Anonymous #8 16h

And the reason you see more violence from Christians is because there are simply wayyy more of them in this country. They hold the majority percentage of religious people. Like look up the stats, like 200+ million Christians in this country versus a few million Muslims. They outnumber Muslims a huge amount. Obviously Christian nationalism is more of a threat to our politics for that reason, but my point is that we should admit both religions are equally harmful and shouldn’t influence politics.

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Anonymous #8 15h

Saying another religion is harmful does NOT mean I support Christianity btw!! I’m literally an atheist and reject Christian beliefs as well. I equally reject both Christianity and Islam and don’t want either to influence politics.

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Anonymous #8 15h

And yes I’ve talked to many Muslims actually lol. And I’ve read verses of the Quran and listened to Muslim scholars and podcasts on YouTube, I also used to study Arabic and Islam as it interested me a lot for a while, but I came to the conclusion that I do not agree with the religion after that studying it for a while

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Anonymous #10 15h

Sorry, you didn’t say that. You and 4 have the same pictures on my screen rn

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Anonymous #10 1h

not sure why this matters in the context of islamaphobia when christian doctrine has just as many threats against nonbelievers

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