Anonymous #1 1d

Racial bigotry can exist regardless of culture. Personal bigotry exists independently of whether systemic racism is a thing. Also is boycotting businesses based on ethnicity not just creating systemic racism? Is that not just making a system of oppression?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Uganda expelled its Asian population as a form of ethnic cleansing. Indigenous Africans genocided the Arabic and South Asian upper class of Zanzibar. Appalachian whites are an economically and socially oppressed group. I’m damn sure they can be racist too.

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Anonymous #1 1d

Brain dead take. That’s not true of racism or any other minority group oppression. That’s like saying women can’t be misogynistic, queer people can’t be phobic, etc. and saying that just excuses real harm perpetuated by people within an oppressed group.

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Anonymous #3 1d

chased down and shot and killed a 14 year old black kid in his store because chow thought the kid stole a single bottle of water the kid was shot in the back. apparently the kid did have a gun on him, which the defense and chow said was pointed at chow and his son, but the kid was chased over 100 yrds and then shot in the back. not self protection, but thats what the defense claimed

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Anonymous #3 1d

i think reading through the black chat page a bit i definitely understand the perspective but i think "boycott asian businesses" is just a very strange position. im not gonna claim to have an answer to this because i think a lot of what is being said there (specifically about race dynamics) is very valid, even if not positions held by asian people themselves.

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Anonymous #3 1d

Oh shit maybe, I saw that today and didn’t connect the dots. It seems like this has been an ongoing thing since last year at last though. Also I get the outrage, but I think it’s a little hypocritical to blame an entire race compromised of billions of people for the actions of one person within that huge group, in a situation that has nothing to do with larger corporate corruption.

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Anonymous #2 1d

as i understand it, its not necessarily about blaming an entire race for the actions of an individual, but rather a reaction to an observation about racial dynamics and how asian people (most specifically chinese, japanese, korean, not southeast asian or indian) have been granted some degree of social privilege connected to white identity. like i think it goes really deep into understanding racism and how now some people are really taking advantage of that to do things like what happened to cyru

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Anonymous #3 1d

That makes sense. I agree with the core idea but I don’t think the boycott is the right execution, it’s the corrupt justice system that everyone should be attacking. I feel like based on this post and other comments the boycott is just creating confusion on the issue

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Anonymous #2 1d

i doubt im doing a fantastic job of articulating what i mean, but the social structure is just incredibly fucked up. it doesnt take a genius to know that white people have been and are in a position of privilege and power, and black people subjugated, but whiteness hasnt always been strictly the color of a persons skin. like irish or italian people werent white, and they got a degree of subjugation, but then you see them "become white" and being police officers and enforcers of the status quo

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Anonymous #3 1d

like irish pubs are cop spots. positions of enforcement instead of being spat on for being less than or whatever. and the shift now that is being remarked on is that of white-presenting asian people being given that "whiteness" privilege that irish and italians received, and now they go to enforce the subjugation on black people. just everyone up to push black people further down

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Anonymous #2 1d

this isnt even about the justice system necessarily. the justice system being abysmal dogshit is just a fact of life, but a group of people reaping the benefits of being granted this unjust out-of-court privilege is different. its the antithesis of progress.

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Anonymous OP 1d

There was 3 major cases of Asian people shooting and killing black girls and boys for suspicion but ended up never being anything and they get away with the murder

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Anonymous OP 1d

mostly recently i’m talking this monday a high profile cas eid an asian gas station owner who shot and killed a little black boy only 14 years old. was found not guilty. The man was Rick chow, had 2 reported cases of shooting before. The kid went into his store grabbed 4 water bottles then put them back Chow and his Son believing he stole something chased the kid after he left the store running 130 yards. The kid , scared ran for his life, he ran so hard he kicked 1 of his shoes off, and

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Anonymous OP 1d

everything out of his pockets fell out including a gun, rick chows son seeing the gun told his dad he pulled out a gun and chow shot him in the back. that was in 2023 and rick chow is now a free, this is the justice system we’re a kid is hunted down and murdered for 4 water bottles that he didn’t even take.

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Anonymous #5 21h

Ok yeah I saw someone say something alluding to that. I guess that’s what incited this

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Anonymous #4 20h

And what happens when systems of racism perpetuate themselves? Bigotry is a problem that is not solved by isolation. Historically, it often recreates itself just within the new power structures. In Haiti, it was French speakers over creole speakers. In Liberia and Sierra Leone, it was the descendants of diasporic Africans ruling over indigenous Africans. If the problem of bigotry itself is not addressed, what prevents some new system from arising within black communities.

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Anonymous OP 20h

And I don’t think that isolation is some solution to bigotry as a problem. The Jewish ghettos in Europe were isolated and independent. That left them vulnerable to otherization by the dominant culture. Particularly when a minority population is geographically dispersed, it is difficult to develop independent economies.

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Anonymous #3 20h

No, you’re doing a fantastic job articulating. I just definitely have a lot to learn on the topic. This has been more apparent lately, like when I was looking at national homeless stats recently and saw how Asian people are on par (if not doing better) than white people as far as rates of homelessness. We don’t learn much in the average history class about racial dynamics post-WW2 for obvious reasons, you just hear about things like the Japanese internment camps and leave it at that.

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