Anonymous #4 5d

Yea bro we are just hecking colonizers after being here for 400 years but the Somalians who get airdropped into Ohio biweekly are just as American as us

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Anonymous #4 5d

I get the rhetoric

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Anonymous OP 5d

Bro forgot about the native Americans 😭💀

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Anonymous #3 5d

We conquered them and I don't really remember them being too peaceful about it

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Anonymous #3 5d

Native Americans? That’s a start, there’s them, the Aztecs, the Mayas, the Incas, the Africans, the Jews of Europe, the Chinese, the Australian Aboriginals, like holy shit

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Anonymous OP 5d

Who is we?

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Anonymous #4 5d

Well OP doesn’t care about anyone other than people they see as white

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Anonymous #3 5d

America

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Anonymous OP 5d

America wasn’t a country back then dumbass. When the colonies were formed they got pushed out, but the colonies weren’t a country until the revolutionary war. Fucking brainlet

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Anonymous #3 5d

No he’s got a point, it was America who did shit like this so they could stave everyone off who lived in the plains. White excellence

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Anonymous #3 5d

America and its colonial predecessors fighting with Native American tribes happened from the 16th century to the 19th century so thats not entirely truthful

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Anonymous #4 5d

Ok but like the native Americans were driven out of what would become the colonies wayyyy before the founding of the country. This whole “oh the pilgrims and native Americans ate together” schtick is all bullshit

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yeah, the colonial predecessors weren’t America lol. That came later

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Never said that

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Anonymous #3 5d

So your argument is that the colonial system that overthrew British rule in America and established the country had nothing to do with America today? Cool fairy tale.

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Anonymous OP 5d

Holy fuck people like you need to be lobotomized I’m saying those colonies were not America because America is a country as you are referring to it. Yes, America is also a continent, but you said that America killed the native Americans. So either you mean country (didn’t exist), people (america isn’t a people), or continent (a continent didn’t kill them)

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Anonymous #3 5d

Where do you think the people establishing America after the revolutionary war came from?

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Anonymous #3 5d

Just dropped into America off the battle bus?

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Anonymous OP 5d

England and Africa primarily

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Anonymous #3 5d

So did the people who were there in the early 1600s live for hundreds of years? Or perhaps there were already multiple generations of Americans/colonial Americans?

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Anonymous OP 5d

After rediscovery of the continent, Europeans came to set up colonies on the continent of North America in the 1600’s. This was to set up colonies. They started to kill native people to make room for their colonies. Again, just colonies doing this, not countries. Later down the line Americans would do the killing, but that was after America the country was founded in the late 1700’s. So to say “oh Americans conquered the native americans” is reductionist and not totally correct

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Anonymous OP 5d

Saying these people are “americans” imply they either came from the country of America (not currently in existence) or the continent (which they did not initially). Massive amounts of the killing was done in the 1600’s when America the country didn’t exist

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Anonymous #3 5d

So you're saying early American colonial settlers conquered the Native American people on behalf of Europe and then continued to do so after founding a country? Seems like a less concise way of saying that Americans conquered the Indians

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Anonymous OP 5d

If the argument was that they were doing so solely on the order of the European colonizers, wouldn't they have stopped after the revolution?

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Anonymous OP 5d

It wasn’t all Europe though is the point I’m making. People were from all over the world. Yes, primarily European (albeit how you defined what was European back then is a whole other black hole) but also a ton of other ethnicities. The country was a melting pot of ethnicities right when colonization began

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Anonymous #3 5d

It was primarily white protestants who were citizens

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Anonymous #3 5d

That's complete revisionist history the melting pot of ethnicities theory was coined in like the 1920s

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Anonymous OP 5d

Not to them. Back then what was viewed at “white” was a matter of debate. If you asked a colonizer if both them and their neighboring colonies were white, they’d say no

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Anonymous #3 5d

So they were even more exclusive to who was White or not?

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Anonymous #3 5d

Like modern day balkans level?

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Anonymous OP 5d

Yeah sorta like the Balkans! Even founding fathers like Ben Franklin and John Hancock considered the Germans to be a massive threat to the country and suggested keeping that race out. If you had asked them, Germans were not white. Nor were all the Spanish considered white in America at the beginning (or in the colonies before America). Race and ethnicity are categories that are not set in stone

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