Anonymous OP 7w

That’s dumb that should count

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Anonymous #1 7w

we weren’t a country so it doesn’t exactly count that it was a conflict for the country. if anything, it’s a conflict Great Britain was in against itself which resulted in the creation of our country.

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Anonymous _orangutan 7w

I don’t agree with most of this argument but I think these are respectable points

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Anonymous #5 7w

Ok it’s true that the US and the Nazis had international trade, but the US didn’t sell them military equipment. And the US took away trade concessions and imposed tariffs on Germany for its actions long before Pearl Harbor. There was basically no trade between the two countries by 1940. The US also imposed strong embargoes on Japan prior to Pearl Harbor. The US took a proactive stance in hindering the Axis powers, before it got involved militarily

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Anonymous #5 7w

“Involved” is not a very precise word, but I think it’s fair to say that the US’s trade policies made them involved in slowing down the Axis powers well before Pearl Harbor

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Anonymous _orangutan 7w

Sure the US fought to bring the south back into the union, but slavery was the primary reason that the south seceded. And when the Union became sure that it would win, it added on the promise that slavery would be abolished, because if it didn’t, then the same conflict would happen again later

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Anonymous #5 7w

It doesn’t matter if it was rifles, cotton, or corn. We supplied Nazi Germany up until weeks before Pearl Harbor. Period.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Ok, but the US did way more economic harm to the Axis powers than good, before it got involved in the war. And meanwhile we were selling entire warships to the UK. The US absolutely took sides before Pearl Harbor. The trickle of supplies to Germany that you’re pointing at are just not consequential in comparison.

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Anonymous OP 1w

i mean considering how the U.S. recruited & embraced the Nazi scientists and researchers for their own benefit… i’d say it was consequential in at least some way

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Anonymous OP 1w

So you agree, The U.S. continued to support and supply Nazi Germany right up until Pearl Harbor. Cool.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I admit recruiting Nazis is questionable, but that was after the war. Meaning that it didn’t help the Nazi war effort. And the way you phrased it makes it sound like we took all of them. Regardless, this doesn’t mean that the US supported the Nazi regime, it just means that it kidnapped some smart people

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Anonymous #5 1w

Support, no. The US placed many tariffs and embargoes on Germany while cutting back on trade. And the way you use supply makes it sound like the US was just sending goods. Germany was buying them, not receiving them for free. And you’re still ignoring how the US chose sides in the war before Pearl Harbor, by being economically friendly to the allies. But let’s return to the original topic. The US getting involved in WWII was objectively morally correct

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Anonymous OP 1w

considering how the Nazis efforts did not end with the war, and how they *still* want to establish a fourth reich, I’d argue it did indeed help the nazi’s long-term goals by ensuring their ideals did not die off as they should have. I’m sorry but it’s naive as fuck to act as if intentionally recruiting Nazis after the war was essentially harmless. That is directly part of the reason we’re dealing with a modern revitalization of Naziism. (ofc that goes for every nation that engaged in that)

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Anonymous OP 1w

No.

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Anonymous OP 1w

also let’s not pretend that we were explicitly against the Nazis the whole time. why do you think it took so long for us to join the war effort?

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Anonymous OP 1w

i’m sorry — KIDNAPPED? gurl no lol they came willingly and it was a full agreement between the two parties. Nazis got their tactics from our Jim Crow era so naturally many of them were like “ayy but you’re so inspiring can I not get punished for my dangerous ideology and just help you with my skills instead?” and we were cool with that. 😐 reasons why that dangerous ideology is rampant in the current administration.

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