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mother_russia

Quick guide to discourse: • it’s about the topic, not the person, so saying “oh you’re a-“ is not helpful. • don’t say “you are saying…” instead ask “are you saying…” to let them correct misunderstanding or affirm that’s what they are saying
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Anonymous 4w

you get it. another great trick is that if you pretend to agree with someone even on the most minor of things, it allows them space to actually consider agreeing with your points

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Yeah, finding actual common ground helps it feel less personal and more working towards a goal!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

oh and a lowkey evil trick is to make them think ur in their political party (but still have a differing opinion on whatever topic ur discussing). they’re now 10x more likely to take u seriously

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Anonymous replying to -> mother_russia 4w

u dont even have to find common ground tbh. ive gotten away with just saying “i agree but” and never specifying what i actually agreed with. they just need that permission slip, that first concession

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Also reframe things in language that their party identifies with better. When talking about how the national parks are being desecrated, don’t mention the environment or climate change since they’ll write it off as woke hogwash or something. Instead, mention how our land is sacred and divine and that it’s a big part of America’s identity and culture.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

ugh yessss! i’m so glad to see some ppl out there are realizing the same. this is genuinely our best chance at revolution, not only does this make them actually listen to you, it breaks us out of this binary we’ve rot ourselves in. like the charlie kirk thing was so interesting to me cause i saw a ton of conservatives policing speech and being against dark humor… i was like hello?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

The thing I find difficult is finding a way to use their language while also not contradicting the Glorious Leader’s Ultimate (totally not lies) Truths. Explaining that tariffs make things more expensive and are a tax SHOULD be so easy since that’s the opposite of what they want. However, Glorious Leader says it cures America so you can’t really tell them that it’s a bottle of snake oil

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

the truth is that the tariffs are intended to be bargaining tactics, negotiation leverages. its like a game of chicken, trump is gambling with american lives, knowingly making our economy worse, so that he can use them for better trade deals (or rather to boast about how he’s got the “art of the deal” snd these leaders “really respect him” later)

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 4w

the thing is, it’s just wrong and harms both us and the ppl of the other country. and also our trade deals are not the reason for our debt or our economic inequalities. it is purely so he can brag about it later

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

Tariffs are mainly to protect domestic producers from foreign competition with absolute advantage (and in turn protecting consumers from dumping). Even when used as intended, consequences run deep (See Bush’s Steel Tariffs). The owner of one of my favorite local stores is a Republican and we talked about it. Surprisingly he just supported a flat tax and we went back and forth. I explained that poor people would spend more of their paycheck on necessities than rich people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 4w

He argued back that we could make exceptions. He didn’t have a response to me saying, “Congratulations now pizza shop owners in NYC are back to selling cold slices to get a grocery exemption and we’re back to square one.”

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