Anonymous #4 14h

I think El Sayed’s seven-point win is still impressive when you remember just how hard the right wing was going after him, and even centrist Democrats were concerned trolling about him being Muslim and not pro-Israel enough for the entire election cycle. I mean shit, his primary opponent endorsed the damn Republican and he still won by 7.

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Anonymous #4 14h

you’re likely not going to win with a more progressive candidate. you need someone more moderate

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 14h

it absolutely is impressive-- for him. which is the issue. as great of a candidate that he is, as focused and intelligent as it was, it shouldve been a blowout. but because of his name and the fear and the targeted campaigns from both sides, it was closer than it shouldve been.

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Anonymous #4 14h

to be clear, im not downplaying his win or insulting him at all. im more insulting the voterbase. abdul worked hard for that and he got it. but he had to work harder and be so much better because of the forces that oppose him, which include the stupid biases a lot of americans have internalized

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Anonymous #4 14h

that said, i do think he could win the presidency. it would just be very hard and pretty close, which is why i said it would be a risk

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Anonymous #1 14h

We have tried moderates every single time since Bill Clinton and we’ve never had a better moment to swing for the fences than while the Republican Party is on the verge of total collapse.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 13h

you gotta understand that democrats didn’t win the election because they’re popular - they won because republicans are SO unpopular. Average people will not vote for an AOC or equivalent progressive

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Anonymous #1 13h

Yeah, and Democrats are unpopular because they have nothing to rally behind. There’s no energy when your campaign is “I’m gonna play nice with the opposition and hope they let me do small incremental reforms😊” Democrats need a message in 2028, and a progressive message is better than what they’ve tried in the past, which was a moderate message. It’s been a moderate message since Clinton, and that’s how Trump was able to rise, he weaponized the do-nothing nature of moderate Democrats against them

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 13h

sorry i’m in california all i have ever known from democrats is the opposite. i didn’t know their national message was play it slow. what do you think their message should be

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Anonymous #1 13h

.... california.

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Anonymous #4 13h

sorry ive just been making fun of california for being fraudulently woke and fake left for the past two days and then since the governors primary

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Anonymous #4 13h

oh im republican i think the democrats in california have done a horrible job because as you said they’re just fraudulently woke and will spend billions of dollars to push a bullshit agenda fuck the california high speed rail. i want our billions back

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Anonymous #1 13h

I think they have to make an economically progressive push at people who are struggling, the displaced members of the shrinking middle class are who they need to shoot for. They need to highlight that destruction of the middle class in favor of the absolute richest has been Republican policy since the 1980s. They need to actually go after the US war machine being completely unaccountable for the money we put into it. They need to campaign on putting American tax dollars back into America.

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 13h

that’s what they’ve been trying to do in california and it’s made the cost of living impossible, people are still on the streets, gas is 2+ dollars more than average because of insane gas taxes. we just voted to keep higher taxes on people who make 315000+ a year. do you understand that in california that’s middle class? anything under that you’re not buying a house except in hemet

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Anonymous cheese_of_the_world_unite 13h

idk i think gavin newsom is slimier than trump. if anyone has an agenda to erase middle class it has been him

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