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This might be a hot take but I don’t think MAGA and conservatives are the same thing, I think conservative views can have some morals but MAGA has almost none
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Anonymous 8w

An example I can think of is Hank Hill from KoTH. That man’s conservative, but definitely not MAGA.

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Anonymous 8w

Stagnation is inhuman, every ideology eventually veers towards its extreme end. Conservative ideology inevitably leads to denial of rights, the concentration of power in the hands of a few, and a general aversion and reversal of progress

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Anonymous replying to -> eviler_ascendgirl 8w

Exactly:) that’s a perfect example

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

That is a cartoon character who was made in 1997…that’s a horrible example.

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

Okay I can see that :) what would you use as an example?

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

There’s literally two new seasons

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Anonymous replying to -> eviler_ascendgirl 8w

I tell ya hwat

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 8w

I can agree with that, I’m very liberal I’m just saying one is an office party and the other has nothing really going for them except kind of a hateful attitude

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 8w

You’ve missed the point completely. He is a character that was designed and created well before MAGA even existed. Romney and McCain would have been better examples because they’re not constructed archetypes of conservatives, they’re real people.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

Despite the examples I gave, you’re still going to eventually find yourself at fascism through success(imagine if we won Afghanistan and Iraq) or the MAGA route which is just conservative populism with evangelical and nationalistic undertones. The last “real” conservative philosophy that added any value was probably Burke, who essentially argued that tradition had epistemic value instead of it being ritual for ritual’s sake.

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

Hey so fun fact MAGAs were born and developed political beliefs and party affiliation before MAGA existed too. And yet Hank did not become MAGA when the opportunity arose

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 8w

Hey so uhhhh fun fact, I’m well aware of ughhh the tea party movement and uhhhh like uhhh the America First movement in the past. Uhhh I don’t know if you know this uhhh but uhhh Hank Hill ISNT A REAL FUCKING PERSON

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

No bro trust I’ve met him

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

One of the actual real burning hatreds I have towards people is their engagement with media. People always get smug about media literacy but I honest to god can’t fathom how people will use cartoons or tv shows as stand-ins for real people. Liberals do this fucking shit with anything Sorkin related and dipshit fly-over Midwesterners do this shit with anything Taylor Sheridan made.

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

Your stupidity is genuinely hurting my brain. “How dare people use accessible and well known pop culture media references to support their points in a way many people could understand! They must use random strangers 6 people know about like *I* a REAL intellectual does”

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 8w

No, dipshit. Name a modern day fucking politician. Not a character that was made in 1997. Christ, are you 15 years old?

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

Oooh okay hmm I would say the difference between Kristy noem being maga and Ronald Reagan being conservative

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

That’s a good example. Reagan is weird only because he fits more into the middle of the timeline of “progression” conservatives have made. There is definitely meaningful distinction between Reagan and modern day MAGA, but a lot of this started with Goldwater/Nixon

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

I hate to break it to you but politicians are not very accessible points of understanding for the vast majority of people. Most people can name the president, maybe a few pop culture politicians like AOC, McConnell, Pelosi, and Graham, but you gotta accept the fact that the average American is not politically engaged. Up to 41% of Americans can’t even correctly name the vice president

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 8w

Someone making a statement such as “MAGA and conservatives aren’t the same” is definitely able to articulate political philosophy.

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

This doesn’t equate to knowledge on current political figures or an innate understanding of the climate. You’re just trying to feel special rn and that’s ok we can work through this together big dog

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Anonymous replying to -> og_beer 8w

No, you’re just being intentionally obtuse because you know you’re just flat out wrong lol. It’s a board specifically for USPol and even more specifically a question that OP is able to articulate enough to where they can answer with Kristi Noem and Ronald Reagan. You want to treat people like children and dumb everything down for the lowest common denominator, you go right ahead.

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Anonymous replying to -> ___joker__ 8w

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