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Ok has the dust settled about Kirk enough to ask what the fuck yall were doing posting about exterminating every liberal and declaring war or do I have to wait a lil longerI dont think his opinion was an extreme but I respect the way others could. But even if you believe his opinions were extreme and normalized the ācurrent atmosphereā that you disagree with while others rightfully do not, it doesnāt justify his assassination. You still didnāt answer my question of why you would want to share the streets with people who feel no sympathy after seeing that video. If your answer is because he normalized the current atmosphere, thatās concerning
Honestly, I donāt care who I share the streets with as long as theyāre not actively violent. First of all, some people donāt have extreme reactions, or any reaction at all to violence, so thatās not a fair metric to judge things by. Second, building a platform where you know your opinions are inflammatory, and farming content on polarization means people arenāt going to like you, and in some cases wonāt feel bad, even if you die. Arresting someone on grounds like that is just unfair.
1) Tyler Robinson wasnāt actively violent- he was an unsympathetic leftist hiding on discord waiting to gain the courage to do something this horrific. Anyone could be next. You would share the streets with him, yes or no? 2) THATS THE PROBLEM. We are desensitized to violence and it causes things exactly like this. 3) he went to college campuses and begged people to talk to him- not to solely debate them, but to have civil discourse because he believed communication was the answer-
I think he did build his platform on polarization. His content is a lot more inflammatory than you might realize bc you might be agreeing with a lot of the things heās saying. But even recently on his instagram he called the act of Muslims (not Islamic extremists, just Muslims) immigrating to Europe ācivilizational suicideā. Thatās intentionally inflammatory language to get engagement from. And when you say stuff like that ALL THE TIME, some people who donāt like you wonāt care if you die.
I get the point youāre trying to make, and I do wish people had more empathy towards those who are victims of gun violence in general, the public reaction to his death was NOT a hypothetical like youāre suggesting. Sometimes people just wait for the right moments to post how they feel. Like the post I sent above.
Itās polarization and inflammatory to you because you disagree with the points he made. And thatās fine!! You can disagree all you want- he WANTED people to disagree with him, as I already mentioned. I saw the video youāre referring to and you know that what you just said is taken out of context⦠I mean come on, who are you trying to convince right now Iāve followed him since 2020. YOU, cannot call someone elseās OPINION, intentionally inflammatory. Do you get that? The way someone else thinks-
does not have to align with your thoughts and values. Charlie Kirk as an individual was not put on this earth to trigger you or anyone else. If you find someone inflammatory, that is your problem. Iām not trying to be insensitive to your feelings either Iām trying to get you to understand because ik youāre smart enough lol
I feel like Iām coming at this from a fairly neutral standpoint here, because I never even really followed him. Inflammatory language doesnāt mean Iām getting mad at it, it just means attention grabbing by its extremity. He knows itāll get people to engage with him when they disagree. Itās all just part of his persona and his marketing tactics
There is a video that goes along with that and it would make more sense to you had you seen it. You should look for it. Itās the reason why all of England is protesting right now. Yes I do agree that that is what polarization is lol thanks for the definition! But youāre using the word as a negative connotation to the work that he did and I think we both know that as well. If his beliefs aligned with yours Iām sure it would no longer be polarizing, right?
Iām not using the word as a negative at all, I just am trying to explain why some people donāt feel bad for him. But what you said alone proved my point kind of. He has all this nuance to his opinion but instead of posting the video, he posts that instead because he KNOWS itās an extreme opinion, and he KNOWS that it will get more engagement by nature of it being extreme. This was his whole career, this was the guy he was, this should be no shock at all that some people hated him
I am begging you to please look in to what the people who loved him are saying about him. As much as it may pain you, watch Candace Owens 2 most recent TikTokās about him. Watch the way his wife speaks about him. Watch the way he speaks about his wife and his family. Please go out of your way to find the things that your algorithm is intentionally not showing to you. I promise you will see him in a different light if you have any ounce of compassion. Put your feelings to the side
Iām sure they all had great things to say! But thatās just not my point at all. He played into the algorithm for the most extreme engagement to be pushed to the top. Iām sure people who looked deeper into his content understood the points he was trying to make, maybe, but he made money off of the fact that people hated him.
I just want to make sure that Iām understanding before I make an argument back to you. So you are basically suggesting that itās the influencersā fault that people are reacting this way, because they intentionally post extreme things that others will undoubtedly disagree with? And for that itās reasonable to understand why others would not be unsympathetic to his public assassinatiom?
Itās not his fault that he died, thatās the fault of some cringe 4channer who decided he wanted to commit an atrocity for fun. Heās a victim in that sense, and I donāt think his engagement tactics warranted a bullet in his neck, because nothing does. But itās not unreasonable, based off those same engagement tactics, to note some of the general public will be less than sympathetic towards you about it. People donāt want to give their emotional labor to someone they feel they hate