Anonymous #3 6w

The "western" ethos is little more than horror after unmistakably evil horror upon meaning and the good itself. No, Hitler was not uniquely evil, and the reason this troubles people is not that it some how downplays the Holocaust (it doesn't, evil being commonplace does not make it less evil) but rather that we are forced to confront the fact we live and partake in such evil systems. Systems we just don't actually care enough to do anything about—unless it's white western people that suffer

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Anonymous OP 6w

except the Holocaust didn’t happen to white Western people. Jews and Roma both have ethnic roots in Asia and were hunted down specifically because they weren’t white or Western. and the Nazis didn’t go away because people dismantled the system of antisemitism, it went away because the Allies defeated the Axis powers in order to stop their invasion of Europe

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Anonymous #5 6w

the reason antisemitism and anti-Roma hate are less common in Europe isn’t because they went away but because there are hardly any Jews or Roma left anymore

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Anonymous #5 6w

it’s a bit of an anomaly that Jews are considered white (at least by some/to an extent) in the US but it wasn’t like that in Europe and in many places it still isn’t

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Anonymous #5 6w

Nobody at scale thinks of the Roma when they think of the Holocaust, they think of Jews, who were white. Ashkenazis are white.

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Anonymous OP 6w

no, Ashkenazis were not considered white at the time of the Holocaust or at any time before. they are the ethnic group i am talking about when i say Jews who are considered white in the US

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Anonymous #5 6w

at different times throughout the past few centuries, Europeans have classified Ashkenazi Jews as “Asiatic”, Black, and racially Jewish

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Anonymous #5 6w

Yes, they were so not white that they were used in Nazi propaganda as ideals of whiteness. People can say they weren't considered white at times, but the fact they categorically were after, and were literally accidentally held up as models of whiteness by white supremacist societies is all you really need to know to cut through prior euro cognitive dissonance and just use your eyes. No one cares in government really cares about Gaza or Sudan as we speak, bc they are not white

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Anonymous #10 6w

Evil is not new, and it is still evil. I was actually going to bring up unit 731 in response to someone above but yeah, that’s a great example of more industrial scale mobilization of normal educated people toward unhuman levels of cruelty we simply ignore as a society. This willful ignorance on part of our educational system begs the question of why, and it takes us back to the conclusion I posed in this post imo

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Anonymous #5 6w

I used to hold a similar view to you, but the blinders have since subsided past my eyes these last few years. We are the horrors, we swim and breathe in them, horror is all we know, and what we constantly subject the world to from the plants to the animals to the environment to our fellow human beings and even unto ourselves. And so we obscure this fact. Waking up to this reality goes against all that we’ve been nurtured with, but the truth cuts past ties of mere culture & association

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Anonymous #5 6w

And I don’t think this is unique to us as western whites any longer, this whole evil philosophical enterprise of modernity has infected the world over with such cruelty, apathy, & ignorance (the result of colonialism culturally, epistemically, & physically). I think we’re beginning to get to something even worse than only caring when horrors are visited upon our fellow white western man though. I think we’re getting to complete detachment, where all horrors on all people are acceptable

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