Anonymous #1 10w

Common Sense has left the room on Twitter. My feed is filled with sentiment against everyone I just mentioned, with large emphasis on Jews and Muslims. I hope it doesn’t reflect the actual population.

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Anonymous OP 10w

twitter is a Nazi platform of mostly bots thankfully, but it does reflect a significant amount of Gen Z men specifically

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Anonymous #1 10w

The World was so much more accepting 5 years ago. Now I’m scared to grow up in this world.

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Anonymous #2 10w

Before you bring up any criticism of any religion you gotta remember that there are good and bad people associated with every religion and the actions of few don’t reflect all

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Anonymous OP 10w

sure ig

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Anonymous #2 10w

religion is stupid and dangerous but it doesn’t mean you should dehumanize religious people

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Anonymous #2 10w

Also Jews are both an ethnicity and religion which makes this more complicated

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Anonymous #4 10w

What’s the issue with not aligning with western values?

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Anonymous #3 10w

My school page has also had some pretty appalling posts get a lot of upvotes so you can’t even blame it on bots

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Anonymous #1 10w

There’s no issue, so long as you’re not in the west. Just like the west trying to impose its values elsewhere is also not our business

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Anonymous #4 10w

Found one of the people I’m pointing out

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Anonymous #4 10w

yuppp

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Anonymous #4 10w

so you’re saying the West shouldn’t accept minorities? what about the minorities forcefully sent to the West during the centuries of colonialism? Or those born in the West? Or indigenous people?

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Anonymous #1 10w

Did I say that? Any of that?

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Anonymous #1 10w

they’re saying certain cultures are not the same as the west and can cause conflict probably but idk im putting words in their mouth

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Anonymous #4 10w

it’s what you’re implying, you’re saying those of cultures that don’t align with western values shouldn’t express their cultural ideas or opinions

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Anonymous #2 10w

still a stupid reason though, the only reason there is conflict is bc of bigots

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Anonymous #1 10w

sure but you aren’t going to stop bigotry so maybe we should accept a little bit of it as a fact of life

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Anonymous #1 10w

People who have an entirely different set of ideals, values, and beliefs than the west should not try dictating what ideals, values, and beliefs the west should hold by. It’s simple.

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Anonymous #2 10w

for the sake of a cohesive and high trust society

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Anonymous #2 10w

no we shouldn’t accept bigotry, ofc it won’t be eliminated entirely but it doesn’t mean we should tolerate it, should we tolerate bullying simply bc we can’t erase it entirely?

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Anonymous #4 10w

so we shouldn’t try to change the values of the west to be better? We shouldn’t try to progress forward?

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Anonymous #1 10w

By you saying foreigners bringing their values here makes our better, you are the one saying our values are inferior and theirs superior. Our values are progressive, not every culture you invite to dictate ours is. You don’t invite houseguests for dinner and let them change your furniture

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Anonymous #4 10w

I don’t think that’s what #1 is trying to say at all

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Anonymous #4 10w

not necessarily no, immigrants have a wide range of beliefs, not every Iranian immigrant, for example, has the exact same beliefs Also, I don’t think political / cultural beliefs should matter in terms of immigration, all that matters to me should be do they want to be here and are they not a felon Having differing opinions shouldn’t shut you out from society Also, I’d argue western values aren’t that progressive at all

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Anonymous #1 10w

That’s a fine opinion for you to have. But most other people believe you should also have to not want to tear down the country and rebuild it closer to where you came from. That’s not a radical belief. And i never said you’re not allowed to have different opinions. But part of getting the privilege of becoming American is becoming AMERICAN

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Anonymous #1 10w

And western values are quite literally the most progressive in history. Look at the rest of the world

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Anonymous #4 10w

yeah I disagree with this, I disagree with people who would want to install, say, a religious aspect to the state, but considering there are Americans who want a Christian state, I’d say blaming immigrants or criticizing immigrants for having the very same characteristics as Americans is anti-immigrant

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Anonymous #1 10w

Key word: Americans. You don’t get the same say when you join the club vs when you’re already a member. If you want to talk about once you become American, that’s another story. But people who aren’t even American yet, trying to become one, should not be getting a say in rebuilding America before even being accepted into it. And the fact that someone wants to come here only to tear it down and rebuild it SHOULD be a warning sign not to let them. There’s other places to go

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Anonymous #4 10w

I mean why go to a country you want to tear down and rebuild in your own country’s image? Why not stay? Also, the “tear down” is often an exaggeration used to fear monger against people like Muslims, no, not all Muslim immigrants want sharia law, that’s a propaganda talking point, for example

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Anonymous #1 10w

I agree with point number one. Not everyone does. But point #2 doesn’t just extend to religious law systems like sharia law or Talmudic law. We all acknowledge there are cultural differences between people in different countries, some good some bad. But no country is required to take on the bad just because the people have some good to offer too. It’s totally normal to have calculated risk

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Anonymous #4 10w

Oh okay so you’re just a Christian who hates Judaism and Islam… no concern for Christian nationalism or Christian laws?

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Anonymous #1 10w

I’m Jewish… and I gave the 2 most common examples usually given…

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Anonymous #4 10w

Thankfully not all Muslims follow sharia law and not all Jews follow Talmudic law Also the Talmud is grossly misinterpreted when in reality it’s a book of debates

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Anonymous #1 10w

You don’t have to lecture an Orthodox Jew on the Talmud lol. But it doesn’t take an entire people to affect something. Like I said, a country shouldn’t be obligated to take in the bad just because there’s also good. Criminal history is not the only indicator of ideological incompatibility

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Anonymous #4 10w

You’re a fucking dumbass

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