Anonymous #6 3d

is what id say if i was israel denying things that there is just endless proof, as what israel always does

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Anonymous #4 3d

“Proof” and it’s just AI videos made Iran and given to Al Jazeera to pass around on TikTok

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Anonymous #6 3d

so when israels government makes statements on their actions, its actually ai and al jazeera and tiktok?

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Anonymous #6 3d

never has israel seen a stronger soldier than you

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Anonymous #4 3d

Israel has been very transparent when it has come to debunking the ai slop Iran puts out there

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Anonymous #6 3d

so when israel has to make statements about their soldiers killing children as they always do, is that ai al jazeera tiktok wokeism?

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Anonymous #4 3d

False pretense

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Anonymous #6 3d

yea yea strawman, ad hominem, appeal to authority, fallacy fallacy, smd

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Anonymous #6 3d

Dawg what exactly is a false pretense for doing what here lmao

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Anonymous #4 3d

It’s not a fallacy, it’s a hallucination lmao

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Anonymous #6 3d

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson has directly stated his support for the Israelis search for a “pure red heifer” to rebuild the 3rd temple (because he believes it will cause the rapture) and AIPAC, the ADL, and various Israeli efforts to buy support in the US government beg to disagree

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Anonymous #1 3d

True. Groups like Chabad and Hillel basically indoctrinate young Jewish kids into Zionism as well. They (these groups) genuinely believe that they must rebuild the temple to bring about the messiah.

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Maybe you’re not privy to it, but the leaders of Chabad do believe this

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I highly doubt everybody in Chabad believes in your specific version of things. Regardless, both organizations promote birthright Israel trips.

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Birthright trips are quite literally propaganda tours. The whole point is to make kids think Israel is so cool so they can move there and have more bodies for the military/colonization efforts

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Doesn’t Israel have mandatory service? So anyone who becomes a citizen is required to join the military?

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Anonymous #3 3d

Im in Hillel, you’re just making shit up

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Anonymous #6 3d

you shut up youve got less credibility than enron ceos

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Anonymous #10 3d

And then there’s the real enemy…

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Anonymous #10 3d

In my opinion the Lebanese president is being dumb. Hezbollah or not Israel will do what they want. Did he forget about being bombed for almost a year straight by Israel even without Hezbollah. Israel wants to annex Southern Lebanon. Hell look at the West Bank & the Palestinian Authority they work with Israel. Hamas isn’t a real thing in the West Bank yet illegal settlements keep being built

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Anonymous #3 3d

Not only move but for the ones that don’t the goal is that they will defend Israel when they return home from people who rightfully point out their atrocities

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Anonymous OP 3d

What are you talking about? Why would you know more than the Lebanese President? Even Lebanon admits Hezbollah made the specific effort to get involved. Deals have been struck before for Hezbollah to be demilitarized but that never happened so the conflict never ended. Whose responsibility is it to ensure rockets are not fired into another country? The country they’re being shot from or the country they’re landing in? Lebanon failed to disarm them, so Israel said now it’s their turn.

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Anonymous #10 3d

That’s like saying why would I know more than Trump. Just because someone is president doesn’t mean they’re making a good decision. Again look at the West Bank with the PA who tried to work with Israel & doesn’t have Hamas. Also again Lebanon was bombed for a whole year despite not having Hezbollah. Idk why this time is any different for Israel

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Anonymous OP 3d

Again, what are you talking about? Hezbollah has been in Lebanon since 1982. They had a ceasefire in place in 2025 that was conditional on conditions that never came to fruition. Lebanon was supposed to disarm them. Then Hezbollah chose to attack after the US/Israel launched on Iran. They chose to involve themselves. Just like in 2023 when they chose to attack on October 8th.

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Anonymous OP 3d

They’re a non-state paramilitary force acting against the best interests of the state it resides in. It makes perfect sense that the President of Lebanon would want them gone. They just don’t have the military capacity to forcibly disarm them. And that’s where Israel comes into play

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Anonymous #10 3d

Yes I’m aware that Hezbollah was formed back in the early 80’s after Israel invaded Lebanon. Also after the ceasefire at the end of 2024 Israel continued to bomb Lebanon for a full year & then had the nerve to say Hezbollah broke the ceasefire when they joined Iran a few months ago. The UN & Amnesty International reported on it. As for the president of Lebanon yeah I understand his issue with Hezbollah but that doesn’t change what I said. Hezbollah is only growing more popular & as the president

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Anonymous OP 3d

Grows less popular especially in the South due to the people viewing Hezbollah as the only ones willing to fight & defend their homes from an invading army. We again saw the same thing in the West Bank. The Palestinians hate the PA because despite the PA working with Israel they are still having their homes taken & destroy working with Israel didn’t help them. They also view Hamas more favorable because they seem them as the only ones willing to fight

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Anonymous OP 3d

The Israeli occupation while they see the PA as collaborating with Israel all this despite andespite Hamas not being in the West Bank. Idk why anyone thinks Israel won’t treat Lebanon & their president any differently they do the West Bank & the PA

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Anonymous OP 3d

If a population is happy to risk being displaced from their homes because it means they get to “fight back” at Israel instead simply not engaging, then that should be a sacrifice they’re willing to make when they eventually lose. You can’t support war and then not support it when you start losing. Either Lebanese Shiites say “no more war, let’s live in peace” instead of “let’s destroy Israel at Lebanon’s expense” what else should they expect when the battle makes it home?

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Anonymous OP 3d

As much as you want to compare the West Bank and Lebanon, they’re completely different. Literally hardly any parallels. The only reason Shiites in Lebanon support Hezbollah is because they want Israel destroyed, not because they feel personally threatened

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Anonymous #10 3d

You think that Israel wouldn’t use this as an opportunity to annex land in southern Lebanon?

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Anonymous #10 3d

lol sure no comparison between Lebanon & the West Bank despite Israel treating them the same. Yeah the people should just do whatever Israel wants if Israel wants them to live their homes so they can take they should do that it worked out great for the PA & Palestinians in the West Bank I’m sure it will work out just as well for the Lebanese population. You remind of the people who right after 10/7 who would say Israel would never bomb a hospital it must have been Hamas but then once Israel

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Anonymous #3 3d

Now they might lol, but now they have a claim. It’s been 35 years since the first promise to disarm Hezbollah and no guarantees have been made to ensure northern Israel’s security. Hezbollah in their attempts to destroy Israel actually just keeps giving them more reason to push harder. Lebanon’s only real option to keeping the land would be to successfully disarm Hezbollah and normalize relations with Israel entirely. Otherwise Israel will just say “We gave you 35 years, times up”

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Anonymous OP 3d

Bombed all the hospitals & killed multiple aid workers those same people stopped saying Israel would never & begin saying Israel had bomb all the hospitals & aid workers. I’ll be the same thing with the occupation in Lebanon at the end of the day they will always try to rationalize why Israel has to do its horrific actions

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Anonymous #3 3d

Like it or not, it’s the likely outcome at this point

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Anonymous OP 3d

The PLO agreed to the Oslo Accord. Again, like it or not, but the current land split of area A B and C are agreed upon by the PLO. Walls and fences didn’t go up until the intifadas sent suicide bombers everywhere. Every violent escalation has led to worse conditions for the people. So yeah, I suppose the one parallel between the two is that the people continue not to learn from the mistakes of their violent hatred or “resistance” whatever you want to call it.

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Anonymous OP 3d

Go resist a brick wall and you’ll probably break your shoulder. That’s not on the wall

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Anonymous #10 3d

I don’t disagree with you as far as the likely outcome. Israel has alway & will always claim that its occupation, annexations & build of settlements are valid. Honestly the only thing that could stop Israel is losing the support of the U.S. government. It’s already lost the support of the U.S. citizens & majority of the western population. The average person hates Israel but as long as it as support of the US government Israel can & will continue to do whatever it wants

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Anonymous #10 3d

Yes dude I get it Israel can do whatever it wants & Israel continuously building illegal settlements under international law is actually okay because Israel says so & the Palestinians are to blame I’ve heard it all before

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Anonymous OP 3d

I think Israel’s support from the US has a time limit. That’s why they want a military partnership and access to our tech and intel, so they can have a clean break from the golden handcuffs

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Anonymous #3 3d

I agree. Israel sees the writing on the wall. Each day they grow more & more hated. So they need to make as many big moves now because they can’t guarantee that in an election cycle or two the U.S. will have a strong pro Israel Congress & president. We’re seeing being pro Israel as almost a death sentence in races on the left & that will only grow.

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Anonymous #10 3d

“Go resist a brick wall” is that what you’d also say to Tiananmen Square massacre victims also?

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Anonymous OP 3d

Oh it’s blatantly illegal, but the problem with international law is always enforcement. The ICJ can’t even investigate a nation without its consent. That’s largely how we got away with Guantanamo, even though what’s happening there has never really been legal

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Anonymous #3 3d

Thats not relevant brother. A country imposing martial law on its own citizens and then massacring them when they protest is not the same as Israeli response to an Iranian proxy in Lebanon acting hostile to a neighboring country in direct opposition to the will of the government of the land they reside in. It’s apples and rocks

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Anonymous #7 3d

You’re right as well as veto power that countries like the U.S. hold. Not to mention our ability to sanction the court & judges

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Anonymous #10 3d

Oh gotcha, the context matters in that scenario

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Anonymous OP 2d

All of that plays in, but it’s more about our military dominance. It’s not worth it to step on our toes just in case you ever find yourself needing a strong ally

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Anonymous #7 2d

I think that’s changing as well because we’re currently showing that with the exception of Israel our allies are on their own.

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Anonymous OP 2d

Our allies mostly seem to be reading that as turbulence right now. Trump is the first president in quite some time to be this aggressively isolationist, and it’s not likely future presidents will be stupid enough to miss the value of having strong alliances

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Anonymous #7 2d

I don’t disagree but as things worsen the question will be do they think it’s in their best interests to just weather the storm & hope the next president doesn’t put Israel’s wants above the rest of the world? Oil shortages getting worse not to mention the gulf states being bombed & defenses from some allies being moved to Israel,Trump Tariffs are all things that might change their calculation. Also assuming the next president doesn’t have the same attitude towards Israel as Trump it’s not like

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Anonymous OP 2d

They can’t just easily reform a strong alliance with us. Either way I’m not saying they will break from us under Trump I’m just saying it’s a possibility

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