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… which nearly every time we’ve seen it has collapsed into a feudal power structure. Marx was a fantastic historian and analyst, but he was not a great architect of human systems of power.
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Anonymous 8w

He wasn’t an architect at all. Literally. He never gave plans for how a communist society would work

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Anonymous 8w

it has collapsed into social democracy every time

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 8w

And that’s exactly my point. He WASN‘T an architect of human systems of power. So when people went to implement his economic framework, they used existing leadership structures to attempt to make it work. And therein lies the problem, because they used systems that had a heavily unequal power structure baked in without many changes from the feudal model (which is similarly a problem leading to inequality under capitalism)

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

To actually implement radical egalitarian as Marx described, you‘d need a completely different power structure than what‘s most commonly used in business and finance (which is essentially a feudal-style hierarchy), since inequality in power without any sort of counterbalancing civic forces is what leads directly to effective class stratification, which is exactly the kind of structure Marx was trying to avoid.

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 8w

China now, and what the USSR was trying to become, before the Clinton regime

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Anonymous replying to -> _orangutan 8w

My favorite “democracy”, North Korea

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

It doesn’t help how he is regarded as some god of prophet when he was just a dude with good sight of things

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Anonymous replying to -> just_a_bucket 8w

Precisely. Did he have some prescient observations and write compellingly about them? Definitely. But deification of Marx by communists into a kind of political religion is exceedingly short sighted with regards to actually implementing the spirit of Marx‘s ideas. It completely paves over the blindspots in Marx‘s theories that directly lead to implementation of abusive social and political structures.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 8w

Like I don’t even think Marx’s himself would appreciate this honesty I like to imagine if he came back from the dead he would probably say “damn these goyim cultists”

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