
Remember just a few weeks ago when leftists would get mad when someone brought up Tyler’s connections with the trans community. And I’m not saying that trans people inherently cause violence. I’m just saying you can’t say someone is wrong when the information is true. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
5% of death sentences carried out are found innocent afterwords. So is it accurate to say you’re fine with state sanctioned murder? No I don’t think so. If abortion clinics weren’t around, that will not stop desperate people from doing desperate things that cause much more anguish. Is the life of the mother not sacred too?
What is your argument? That if I think murdering unborn children is immoral I should be expected to house every child that someone doesn't want? And that murdering unborn children is actually ok because they might be sad sometimes if you don't kill them before they're born? You have no real arguments and should go back to Reddit where you belong
My argument, in plain and simple terms, is that abortion is not a pretty thing. It exists because our system has failed in so many aspects of caring for its citizenry, that having these avenues are necessary. There is nothing that’ll convince me that stopping abortion clinics will stop desperate people from doing something drastic and life-altering.
For you to recommend adoption at the drop of a hat, that system desperately needs fixing, I think we can agree there. There are 10s of thousands of kids in the foster care system. One rife with abuse and mismanagement that more often than not, fails, at providing stability for children.
Because abortion isnt done as a punishment for the fetus lol. It’s typically purely seen as either (1) a health procedure for the woman, Or (2) the freedom of that woman to control what her own body is doing. IMO a woman has just as much a say to have an abortion as you might have a say to not be forced to give an organ to someone—even if that person might need it. It just wouldn’t be right if you were forced to give up a kidney if you don’t want to.
In fact, the people who oppose abortion typically do so because they disagree with this logic I provided. Typically in the “well you signed up to be a mother by the act of having sex, therefore you must be punished (by having a baby),” or “we must prioritize the lives of babies (innocent people) over all other things.” So basically abortion makes sense to the same people who believe that (1) it’s important to punish people, and (2) it’s okay to let people die if it means saving innocent people
Wait you think it’s murder? Isn’t that advocating for political violence? You’re basically saying that people who disagree with you are committing murder. If you think murderers should be killed or imprisoned you’re basically saying that people who disagree with you politically should be murdered or imprisoned. That’s pretty fucked up man
The default pro-life stance on the “doesn’t that make them murderers” issue is that most believe many women are convinced to get abortions under false pretenses and don’t understand the true nature of the procedure. Christian-based anti-abortion groups also don’t believe people who get abortions shouldn’t be retroactively punished and also emphasize forgiveness through Christ
Yeah, I just looked it up and there is decent proof of that, enough to claim it at least. but the source u sent (livemint) has had paid articles in the past so id hardly use that as a “reliable” source in the future. The source also mentions his previous affiliation with MAGA and his obsession with violent video games, so I would still say that it’s wrong to blame his affiliation with a trans person for the violence. All it shows is that he had different views.
I just chose that one article because they all basically said the same thing to the point that it didn’t really matter which one I chose. Also, I think you misread it because nowhere in the article does it claim Robinson had a “previous affiliation with MAGA”, you probably misread the section where they quote Robinson complaining about his father being MAGA. And plenty of leftists play violent video games, that’s not really a political indicator.