Anonymous landtrust 20w

or to isolate the violent and reactionary. winning people over happens irl, not online

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

This is why I said I suspect you of being a neo-Nazi or at least a sympathizer the other day. Every time someone speaks up against fascism, you rush in to undermine them. Whether or not it’s the left’s responsibility to win ppl away from the right, it is STILL the right’s responsibility to police their ranks and shut down antisemites and neo-Nazi to propaganda.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Btw what I said the other day was not rushing in to defend fascism, What I said was you should forgive the author of Harry Potter instead of wishing she was killed, even though she doesn’t deserve it, because it would be better for your mental health. is this neo nazi?

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Anonymous _orangutan 20w

You’re right

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

It is defending fascists and fascist propaganda at the expense of their victims, which is what I accused you of. I explained to you in that thread why “forgiveness” isn’t even an applicable concept and why pretending to take the post seriously on its face is dishonest and only serves to promote Rowling’s agenda.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

I disagree. Advocating for your mental health is not defending fascism

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

And you consistently do this. Twisting terms and redirecting conversations in an effort to shut down speech that opposes fascists or supports progressivism & social equality. It’s what you did there and it’s what you’re doing here.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

No, you’re the one twisting by saying it’s defending fascism when all I did was say you should forgive people even when they don’t deserve it

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

You know if I was actually defending fascism, I would just… do it? But I’m not because I’m against fascism

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

You weren’t advocating for anyone’s mental health though, that’s dishonest and you know it. You want trans people to have better mental health? Shut down transphobic lobbyists and bury their legacy, instead of policing what tone they use when complaining about the harm those lobbyists inflict.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Nobody was shutting down transphobic lobbyists, they were advocating for violence against someone. Clearly someone in mental distress. I offered a solution to their distress, forgiveness

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

I doubt you would. You don’t want banned and what’s more, most thoughtful fascists understand that they need something more palatable at the top of the funnel. I’ve seen how these sorts operate and disrupted an organized recruitment project before. And again, I’m not saying you’re for sure a fascist outright. But your behavior indicates that it’s either that or you have strong sympathies for them. In either case your actions speak louder than your words of denial here.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

I don’t want what banned?

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Advocating for trans ppls mental health isn’t exactly the top of the fascist funnel, you are a conspiracy theorist

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

I would assume not since you keep using shitty smokescreens to protect yourself from it instead of just attacking minorities explicitly.

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

I am a conspiracy theorist but not for this. Using dishonest framings and obvious lies (ie forgiving Rowling will fix trans people’s distress) to claim that aligning with fascists is somehow BETTER for the minorities they seek to oppress is actually a very common strategy at the top of the funnel.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Forgiving all people, even when they don’t deserve it, would fix people’s distress, yes

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Just because I’m not as far left as you doesn’t mean im a fascist. I’m not even a Republican

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

Oh I know you’re not a Republican buddy

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

So you think democrats are also the top of the “fascist funnel”?

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

Hey quick question — if a woman is being abused by her husband and has violent ideations or makes violent jokes about him when he’s away, she’s clearly in distress. Would forgiving his abuse and continuing to stay with him while he goes on abusing her fix that distress? Because that is analogous to what you’re proposing.

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

Most Democratic politicians are fascist sympathizers (see Israel) who consistently side with fascists to defeat any efforts at restricting them (see recent War Powers and ICE bills voting), and a few prominent members of whom ACTIVELY promote fascist propaganda and lower levels of the funnel (see Newsom). So yes, in some cases I do. I never said I thought you were a Democrat, but your point doesn’t hold up well regardless.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

The analogy doesn’t work because you are able to get away from JK Rowling by turning your computer off. It’s not the same for DV

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

You need to watch more dean withers ngl if you think democrats are fascists

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

Many of us live in the UK. They can’t get away. I live in the U.S. where people are influenced by her abominable ideas and legislators proudly pursue her same agenda. *I* cannot get away really. She’s part of a system that we are trapped in. You’re being dishonest again.

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

I do watch Dean, I made real evidence backed points though so if you can’t oppose them then stfu.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

You can get away from JK Rowling specifically, yes you can

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

Well Dean doesn’t think democrats are fascists so

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

I’m aware that he doesn’t. I have a different informed opinion than Dean for the reasons cited above, and believe most democratic politicians are in fact fascist sympathizers and collaborators at the very least. Dean isn’t infallible, and you aren’t antifascist.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

How am I not anti fascist?

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

We’ve had this conversation two or three times now: your actions prove it. You defend fascist, and lie and manipulate to oppose those who speak against fascism. It’s all you’ve done this entire conversation from start to finish.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 20w

I don’t defend fascist, I don’t lie, I don’t manipulate, I just called you out when you twisted the truth

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

Anyone can go look and see the original post. If they do, they’ll see I am advocating for mental health, and somehow your brain thinks this is fascism

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Anonymous landtrust 20w

You need to grow a spine. Why do you expect people to forgive bigots that haven’t earned it?

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Anonymous xi.jinping 20w

I never said I expected you to, but if you do it’ll improve your mental health. Up to you

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I’m pagan now, it’s just a fact that you’d feel better with less hate and more forgiveness

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