Anonymous #1 1w

A few years back New Zealand issues a formal apology to their Dawn Raids, which in the 1970s specifically targeted Pacific Islanders for immigration raids, despite them being only a third of visa overstayers. These raids ignored white visa overstayers, while catching many legal immigrants and Māori in the crossfire. Māori were even told they had to carry passports with them. This spurred a major Polynesian civil rights movement in New Zealand, and is looked back upon shamefully by the government

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Anonymous #1 1w

So no, this isn’t unique to the United states. But it’s also not some non-issue in other countries. People aren’t calling out the killing of American citizens and mass abuse of illegal immigrants just because it’s the USA doing it. They’re calling it out because it’s wildly unethical.

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Anonymous #2 1w

The short version is that cost to benefit ratios matter; we shouldn’t hunt down and deport people at great expense to the taxpayer and great harm to the economy and society simply because there’s some vague notion that itll fix some sort of issue

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Anonymous full.metal.everything. 1w

That’s because their country won’t take them back. Doesn’t give them a right to stay here.

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Anonymous #2 1w

This is not going to last forever it’s just cleaning up the mess from the Dem years of basically allowing anyone to claim asylum.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I love how leftists always create the societal conditions that necessitate a police state, then get mad when the police state needs to activate to cleanup messes left behind.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Absolutely untrue 💀 the trump admin might be unbothered by lying about this but we’re free agents, we can and should do our own research

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Anonymous #2 1w

This was true prior to Trump. You think if a country refuses to take back one of their own that someone gives them residency rights?

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Anonymous OP 1w

And what mess is that exactly? How is spending all this money on ice and DHS helping anyone?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Cleaning up the immigration issue and all these asylum claims that are from economic migrants. Can you keep up?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Ok we’re headed in the right direction lmao, what is the immigration issue? Or asylum claims issue? Specifically what harms do they create and how is unprecedented spending on DHS improving anything?

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Anonymous #2 1w

Ad hominems won’t do much to make your position make any more sense lmao

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Anonymous OP 1w

That's not what Third Country Removals are for. Their intended purpose is safety, for when a person is not safe in their country of origin. This abuse of the idea is costly, feeds corruption, and puts deportees in dangerous positions with zero resources and zero shared language. You are either parroting propaganda given to you by somebody else or fumbling your way through something you don't understand.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Not even sure what you’re really trying to say here. There may have been odd cases here or there where actual criminals weren’t welcomed back into their own countries but the trump admin doesn’t spend much energy catching actual criminals, ice mostly catches people who’s only crime is having expired paperwork. Deporting those people to third countries has nothing to do with their home countries accepting them or not, it’s simply a scare tactic. The trump admin wants people to know that they can

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Anonymous #2 1w

Ruin peoples lives by leaving them stranded in some foreign country so they should just go ahead and self deport to avoid that risk

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Anonymous #2 1w

He genunely doesn't have a point. He's just arguing to waste time and self-soothe lmao

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