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99% of the American left is a cargo cult that doesn’t actually understand Marx
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Anonymous 12w

If you call yourself a leftist I assume you have read mostly vampire smut and maybe the beginning of the manifesto a long time ago

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Anonymous 12w

We understand him fine, he was wrong sometimes and the Marxist movement has matured past some of that with time.

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Anonymous 12w

Mfs would have called him a nazi on twitter for being “eurocentric” or something

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Yeah because almost 150 years has passed and we built on his ideas. Any ideology that remains static is a failed ideology.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

Bearing this allegation is gonna be an uphill battle for me since I’m literally writing long-form vampire fiction in my feee time lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> amethyst_headphone51 12w

Beating*

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Anonymous replying to -> amethyst_headphone51 12w

😂 perfect

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

Also Marx did not consider his beliefs to be an ideology, but rather a scientific critique. He referred to ideology as a false consciousness created by the ruling class to maintain economic power.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

This is exactly what I’m talking about, it’s like you guys haven’t even read him at all.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

Exactly lmao

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Anonymous replying to -> amethyst_headphone51 12w

Why even call it Marxism at that point if agreeing with Marx means you aren’t a Marxist?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Marxism isn’t a religion, it’s not “do whatever Marx said”, it’s an ideology built on Marx’s greater ideas. You will never instantly argue a Marxist out of any idea by quoting the opposite idea from Marx. Texts need to be analyzed and the ideas need to be qualified.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

It seems to me like Marx’s scientific critique of capitalism has been stripped of all its actual diagnostics and reduced to a vague, amorphous sense of progress that anyone can freely interpret for themselves, even in direct contradiction to previous Marxist ideas.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

If you’re talking about more contemporary political movements and ideas like critical theory, feminism, and the civil rights movement being influenced by Marxism, then these ideas are based in the same material analysis that Marx used and are intersectional approaches to the same issues. Could you provide an example of what you mean?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Agreeing with Marx doesn’t make you not a Marxist though; Marxism is an intellectual and literary tradition with variety within it is all. The more reputable and serious branches of that tradition have changed their stance from some of the very earliest writings.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

The material analysis of Marx is, well, a materialist methodology. It fundamentally precludes the incorporation of human/natural rights, let alone civil ones.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

Intersectionality would be an admirable addition, if it truly remained in the realm of dialectical materialism, but it very clearly has departed into a kind of dialectical idealism.

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