Anonymous #7 1w

I gotchu. I wouldn’t say this administration is explicitly neo-Nazi, but it 100% is fascistic. I’ve done a good amount of studying on fascism and authoritarianism, so it’ll take me a few minutes to elaborate on the subjec because I’ll have to sum up fascism and then make the connections to this current administration.

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Anonymous #5 1w

i know what fascism is, it’s essentially my way or the highway, which if you actually knew what that was or what it looked like you would not push that narrative on a movement that is clearly not that, in fact it is more likely to hear you out for a differing opinion than any democratic movement.

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Anonymous #7 1w

1) Fascism has no hard-set definition since past fascist regimes have their differences, but they do share a lot of characteristics. It’s conceptually difficult to define, but fascist regimes commonly represent a highly militaristic and hyper nationalistic form of rule. Fascist regimes are commonly mobilized through the public through mass political parties and their glorification of a heroic leader, and are born in during turbulent periods and crises. For example, ‘Dolf and Benito’s regimes

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Anonymous #7 1w

2) rose to power by exploiting a volatile political environment where the political-left had been gaining traction. Fascist regimes also arise in capitalist societies that have experienced social alienation, resulting from the rigors of economic individualism. That is my general “definition” of fascism. Now let me take a few minutes to connect the dots for you.

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Anonymous #7 1w

(side reply) Fascism is not merely “my way or the highway.” It’s a lot more complex than that. What you described can be generalized to any authoritarian/totalitarian regime.

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Anonymous #8 1w

people have no idea what a real neo-nazi/fascist regime would even look like, nor would it even compare to our current state, people just choose to listen to false information and assume it’s correct bc of their political bias

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Anonymous #5 1w

exactly what you’re trying to claim is going, when it’s clearly not.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Most people don’t really know what fascism is. Liberals have a general idea, but they can never adequately explain what a fascist regime looks like and toss the words “fascist” and “Nazi” willy nilly. MAGA “conservatives” at this point are fascist. They either know that they’re fascist and won’t admit it, or they know that they’re fascist and will.

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Anonymous #5 1w

not you clearly labeling someone, pretty sure liberals are against that…

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Anonymous #9 1w

Ok, and? Real neo nazis absolutely hate trump and his pro-jewish/Israeli positioning. You libtards are completely out of touch.

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Anonymous #7 1w

3) Let’s connect the dots, since clearly you can’t. The United States is already incredibly militaristic and nationalistic. We paste the American flag everywhere and spend a huge amount of budget and attention towards or military. We have two incredibly capitalist parties, both being right-wing on the global political spectrum. As of recent years, Trump has cultivated an incredibly strong following after the Democrat’s political domination. Since the Republicans needed a step up, they invested a

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Anonymous #5 1w

i said concrete evidence it was a fascist “neo-nazi” movement, you still have yet to do any of that.

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Anonymous #7 1w

4) lot of attention and resources to lift Trump up as this bombastic heroic leader. In these recent years, there have been a lot of bad attitude towards Democrats, coming from both within the party and from the rising MAGA movement, which has created a volatile political environment. The different ideologies within the Democrat party and the strong, cult-like following of the Republican Party create a perfect environment where fascists can force their way through the government.

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Anonymous #5 1w

on top of that you’ve decided to talk down to me, although you have no idea who I am i have not done such to you, and yet you’re still using pointless blabbering to backup a point you literally can’t because it’s not true, you have no idea what you’re talking about clearly, can you even vote?

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Anonymous #7 1w

(side reply) I’m clearly still explaining bud. Be patient. You’re showing your ignorance and I’m not sure if continuing to elaborate for you is even worth it.

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Anonymous #5 1w

you are genuinely clueless and that is unfortunate for you

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Anonymous #5 1w

Fascism was simply the authoritarian italian regime allied with nazis in ww2. When Italy switched sides in ww2 the downfall of the fascist regime had already happened. They also persecuted jews btw. Many negative things could be said about trump but labeling him with names from groups of ppl that actually hate him is just stupid and nonsense.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Democrats create a victim cycle that allows people to be citizens that are not contributing to society, that promote the slander of the President, they push out false propaganda with no accountability, and you want to call republicans “cult-like” liberals are the most cultish people i’ve ever met, you would rather go by zir/ze or whatever the fuck than just accept the fact that the democrats are doing nothing but hurting you and putting money in their pockets

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Anonymous #7 1w

(side reply) I’m talking down to you because you’re acting like you’ve studied the matter, when clearly you haven’t. I doubt you even read the base information I provided for you. Need me to show all of my notes and all the books I own on the subject?

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Anonymous #5 1w

honey, you are the epitome of ignorance

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Anonymous #5 1w

that are obviously teaching you to do nothing but sit and be a good boy and do what you’re told just like they want you to be

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Anonymous #7 1w

(side reply) Except Democrats aren’t cult-like, and that why they’re weak right now. The Democratic Party is backed by several different clashing ideologies that can’t get a lot with each other. Half the party is composed of Liberals, who are capitalist, and the other half being Democratic Socialists, Socialists, Leftists, and Communists, which are all Marxist ideologies. The Party is literally made up of a right-wing ideologies and several smaller left-wing ideologies.

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Anonymous #5 1w

This party is absolutely trash, degenerate, and out of touch with reality. The Republican is also trash. Stop trying to attack a trashy party while also defending trash. The world isn't black and white darling.

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Anonymous #7 1w

5) Alright, let’s continue. Btw, you asked for me to not make bullshit assumptions, which I haven’t. I’ve provided you a simple definition of fascism and I am currently having to connect the dots for you. The Trump administration has several ties to Nazi-entities, such as the infamous Project 2025 and other fascist individuals like Stephen Miller. Trump denounced Project 2025 and claimed to have no connection to the Heritage Foundation during his campaign, yet his staff and P25 share the same

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Anonymous #8 1w

You’re right, there is a lot of gray, but in the light of what everyone says “the lesser of 2 evils” will NEVER be a democrat

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Anonymous #8 1w

Don’t have to be a nazi to hate the pro Zionist, pro elitist regime that ultimately controls the west

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Anonymous #7 1w

6) employees. Recently, Trump revealed that he would be implementing P25. If you didn’t know, P25 is explicitly a 1 to 1 handbook for a fascist regime.

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Anonymous #5 1w

once again, assumptions, exactly as you said, denounced he didn’t have anything to do with project 2025 yet you’re still trying to tie it too him, assumptions, i thought i said none of that

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Anonymous #10 1w

Yes I'm with you. When did I say you had to be a nazi?

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Anonymous #8 1w

I’m not defending Democrats lmao. I have my own dissent from the party too, which I thought you would have inferred if you had actually read and comprehended my reply.

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Anonymous #8 1w

I’m making sure you’re not trying to call anti Israeli individuals nazis because that is the narrative they’re trying to create and ultimately some sheep push it

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Anonymous #5 1w

here you go again insulting another person you don’t know, you must think you are really smart, i’m here to tell you, you have your thoughts a little off track, you are also defaming the president of the united states, in other countries they would stone you to death for shit like that, so be damn happy you were born in america that’s all i have to say

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Anonymous #7 1w

Trump literally spoke at a Heritage Foundation meeting and his Agenda 47 and Project 2025 share many of the same writers. Also, he literally embraced the blueprint three weeks ago https://youtu.be/G3Mccx7Lt-U?si=rkLliJLYlZZZaecR You lost.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Absolutely not. I agree with you.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Awesome

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Anonymous #5 1w

that’s where you are wrong because I was never playing a game. I was simply trying to see if anyone was educated enough to know that there is no neo Nazi regime fascist regime happening under Trump’s leadership and you my friend are clearly a person who does not think for themselves, and that is a loss in itself.

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Anonymous #7 1w

“Your thoughts are a little off track” *proceeds to talk about stoning because he has no real defense against any of what I said*

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Anonymous #5 1w

I’m sorry that you feel that way, it is very unfortunate

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Anonymous #7 1w

I think you’re taking the “neo nazi” thing a bit too literal. They’re comparing this current regime to the nazi regime, not a hate for nazis. MAGA is celebrating the arming of ice and the deployment of national guard to tons and tons of cities. Palantir has moved its way into every department. Online ID is making its grounds in Europe, and soon here (GTA 6) were slowly becoming a police state. Israeli elites want to buy tiktok, trump is helping that play out

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Anonymous #7 1w

Refer back to the two recently leaked Republican officials’ groupchats and the Swastika in representative Dave Taylor’s office.

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Anonymous #10 1w

They sow civil unrest on purpose, to divide us all. While the regime can’t be labeled neo nazi, the current regime has tons of the characteristics of the regimes that we hate throughout history.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Trump has repeatedly and publicly distanced himself from Project 2025. In July 2024, he posted: “I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal.” His campaign has consistently stated that “Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign” and that Trump had “nothing to do with the campaign.”

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Anonymous #7 1w

You failed to address how you were wrong about Trump and Project2025. What the excuse?

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Anonymous #7 1w

While it’s true that many former Trump officials contributed to Project 2025 (the Heritage Foundation created it with input from conservative groups), and while Trump has implemented some policies that overlap with conservative priorities outlined in it, that doesn’t mean he authored it or endorses everything in it.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Trump is a liar dude. Isn’t he like super connected with the top guys in project 2025?

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Anonymous #7 1w

Project 2025 is a conservative policy document from the Heritage Foundation - a mainstream conservative think tank that has published similar policy guides for decades (including ones used by Reagan). Whether you agree or disagree with its proposals, it’s:

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Anonymous #7 1w

Well, that’s too bad because Trump backed Project 2025 a few weeks ago lmao. I sent you the link.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Focused on policy changes that would require legislation or executive action within existing constitutional frameworks, Similar in format to policy documents produced by think tanks across the political spectrum

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Anonymous #7 1w

💀💀💀💀 just because he actually executes the ideas and is friends with all of the dudes that run it, he is completely separated from it because he doesn’t endorse it!! This is like saying he’s not on the epsteins list

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Anonymous #7 1w

Calling it “explicitly a 1 to 1 handbook for a fascist regime” is inflammatory rhetoric, not an accurate characterization. You can strongly disagree with conservative policies without equating them with fascism.

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Anonymous #7 1w

The U.S. has continued to function as a constitutional republic with democratic elections, peaceful transfers of power, an independent judiciary, free press, and robust political opposition throughout Trump’s presidency and beyond. I’d encourage looking at the actual policy proposals in Project 2025 and forming your own opinion rather than accepting inflammatory characterizations from either side.

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Anonymous #7 1w

“Inflammatory” yeah just quit atp 😭🙏

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Anonymous #7 1w

Do you not see them trying to buy up social media? Not allowing us to speak bad against Israel? Restricting our first amendment? They’re on the road to it

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Anonymous #7 1w

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/trumps-foreign-policy-moments

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Anonymous #7 1w

So you went from “no no no! Trump isn’t part of Project 2025!” to “well Project 2025 isn’t so bad anyway.” Just quit atp 😭🙏

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Anonymous #7 1w

Democratic elections that aren’t fair. If you’re a politician and you don’t follow the agenda, AIPAC donates millions to your competitors, Trump calls on voters to de seat you, they do everything to control who’s in office. Bizarre

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Anonymous #5 1w

“No no!!!! Trump doesn’t endorse project 2025 publically! All he does is implement the policies and has tons of his loyalists apart of the foundation of project 2025!!!”

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Anonymous #5 1w

You’re obviously mentally handicapped, that’s okay, bored because your disability check isn’t coming bc the government is down 😔

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Anonymous #7 1w

Not you ignoring the swastika in Dave Taylor’s office, you know, the one that #9 sent and you downvoted? Not you saying Trump isn’t part of Project 2025 and then defending the playbook with your life after I sent you the news report of him endorsing Project 2025. Not you not having an actual defense for anything in this comment section 🤯🤯🤯

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Anonymous #10 1w

https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders/donald-trump/2025

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Anonymous #7 1w

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-project-2025-policies-the-trump-administration-is-already-implementing

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Anonymous #5 1w

because that photo is 100% real and you have actual proof of that?

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Anonymous #7 1w

I’m confused is this somehow proving that he isn’t pulling through with their policies

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Anonymous #7 1w

It’s okay, you’re showing the mental gymnastics magats perform in real time. Again, went from “twump isn’t part of P25!!!” to “heh, I actually like P25.” It’s the same shit with the fucking tariffs. The Republicans hated tariffs and pummeled any tariff proposal at any given chance until Trump opened his mouth about them. Anything Trump says, you follow.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Right like 😭 is he sabotaging himself???

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Anonymous #5 1w

putting words in my mouth, i don’t support p25, and i have no issue with tariffs being placed, countries need to be kept in check, he is an effective leader more things happen because he does what he says he’s going to do, more than i can say for the alternative

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Anonymous #10 1w

Ask Egypt why the have a wall.

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Anonymous #7 1w

Considering that the capitol police are investigating it and that it’s on news headlines, I’m sure it’s safe to say it’s real 🤷‍♂️ “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final and most essential command” -Orwell

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Anonymous #7 1w

Do you know how terribly the tariffs are effecting US farmers? Have you even done research into that. Who the fuck cares about money when we are losing our farmers and food. Literally doing it on purpose to allow billionaires to buy up farmland

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Anonymous #7 1w

Really? It seems that he chickens out of his own tariffs all the time 🤯🤯🤯

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Anonymous #12 1w

I don’t blame them

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Anonymous #7 1w

Mind you, HISTORICALLY tariffs have never worked out for us. After the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act worsened the Great Depression, literally every US political has opposed tariffs. Even Ronald Reagan. Pretty much every politician, especially republicans, opposed tariffs until Trump said he was gonna implement them. I’ve had to pay more for my imported shit because of the tariffs, and I guarantee you haven’t gained a single thing from these tariffs.

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Anonymous #7 1w

1) youve asked for someone to prove how its neo-nazi or fascist, saying you know what fascism looks like. all youve said about it? "its my way or the highway." theyre trying to prove something to you in which you refuse to define. its an impossible task. 2) trump "denounced" project 2025 and "distanced" himself from it during his campaign. smart move. in 10 months, project 2025 is 48% to completion. this admin is full of heritage foundation people, p2025 authors, and friends.

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Anonymous #7 1w

just this month, trump said "Russ Vought, he of PROJECT 2025 Fame, to determine which of the many Democrat Agencies... he recommends to be cut."

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Anonymous #1 1w

#7 is just being a dumbass on purpose atp

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Anonymous #1 1w

The answer to this question actually depends on when in time the issue occurred. Right now, it’s worse to be a sympathizer. In 20 years (if we make it that far) it’ll be worse to be an apologist

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Anonymous #13 1w

idek why i said what i said. theyre literally both. they are sympathizers and apologists. "i love hitler?" no problemo. "your german ancestors werent bad?" thats our guy! "i have a nazi streak in me?" nominate him asap. "get the gas chambers ready?" thats just a 35 year old minor child, dont mind him

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Anonymous #14 1w

Instead of at least using their brains to criticize politicians they just be mindlessly calling ppl names atp 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #8 1w

Like they’re calling the majority of people nazis. These people are all around you. If they were actually nazis, yall would be dead rn. If trump was actually a fascist or a king, yall wouldn’t be able to say this. I get the dude isn’t perfect, but this is insane. But no, democrats are absolutely pristine.

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Anonymous #14 1w

1, maga isn’t even a majority and a chunk of people have dissented from Trump. 2, we are still in the early stages of a fascist regime and they are still following the footsteps of previous ones. 3, Democrats are absolutely not pristine and there’s an insane amount of infighting between liberals, socialists, democratic socialists, leftists, left libertarians, and communists. Half the party is right-wing (liberals) and they have to share the party with a bunch of smaller left-wing ideologies.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Calling liberals right wing is insanity 🤣🤣🤣

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Anonymous #8 1w

Except it’s not. Liberals are capitalist and vastly different than the other actually left-wing ideologies I listed. On the US political spectrum, liberals are left. On the global political spectrum, liberals are center-right. You can easily look this information up, it only takes on Google search. Our government and the way our politics run would never let anything other than capitalists to take lead.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Looking this up is like searching on google "what is my favorite color?" This makes no sense as it is all a matter of perspective. I come from Brazil which is a very well known leftist country, and I'm telling you, not even there would liberals be considered right wing. You don't need to be a communist extremist to be considered leftist.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Also, as we previously discussed, why the hell are you comparing MAGA to an antisemite regime? Literal nonsense. I'm all for criticizing MAGA but what you're doing is just stupid and does not contribute to any movement against Trump.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Again, liberals are capitalist. Capitalism is generally a right-wing ideology. US politics have always been set on the right, because we are incredibly capitalist and capitalist entities run our government. They would never let an actual left-wing person take lead, because they are a threat to capitalism. In Brazil, liberals may not be right, but in other parts of the world, they are. Btw, Leftism is its own ideology.

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Anonymous #8 1w

I didn’t. I never called MAGA a Nazi regime, but the current administration is a fascist regime. Fascism doesn’t automatically equal Nazis.

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Anonymous #5 1w

We are not in the 90's anymore when communism was still a thing you dummy. Being right-wing does not equal being capitalist. Only the extreme left supports communism and socialism (many self-proclaimed liberals support socialism btw)

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Anonymous #5 1w

Facism was also antisemite 🤦‍♂️ don't you know history?

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Anonymous #8 1w

what is left wing and what is right wing.

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Anonymous #8 1w

A lot of PREVIOUSLY proclaimed liberals support socialism NOW because there is a socialist shift in the Democrats right now. Right-wing ideologies support individual freedom, which ties into capitalism and free markets.

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Anonymous #5 1w

"Previously" 😂🤌 yeah right

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Anonymous #5 1w

He is most definitely the majority, and I don’t think that’s true. I think people that voted for trump are mostly happy with what he’s done so far. I personally thought that he’d be going way faster at deporting illegal immigrants. I think he cares too much about optics. I don’t care, call liberals capitalist whatever title, doesn’t matter. I just don’t understand how people seriously think this current administration is a “fascist regime.” I know you specifically didn’t call them Nazis, op did.

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Anonymous #8 1w

I do know history. I have numerous books on fascism and authoritarianism and have extensively studied the subjects. Youre using the word “fascist” and “Nazi” as if they’re interchangeable, which they aren’t in all cases. Nazis are fascists, fascists are not Nazis. Fascist is an umbrella term.

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Anonymous #8 1w

can someone define what left wing and right wing are

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Anonymous #14 1w

I tried to give a brief explanation to what fascism is and how the current administration is following the steps of previous fascist regimes to another commenter under this post, but it ended up turning into a messy argument 😭

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Anonymous #5 1w

Your books don't have the power to reshape history darling. Fascism was an Italian authoritarian regime which was allied with the nazis in ww2, and they were also antisemites. That's all it was.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Call Trump many things, but calling him fascist is absolutely nonsense.

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Anonymous #8 1w

All because Trump’s version of fascism doesn’t match Mussolini’s doesn’t mean he’s not a fascist

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Anonymous #10 1w

Yeah right he might as well be a different kind of nazi, right? 🤣

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Anonymous #10 1w

They’re actively turning the country into a police state and ripping our first amendment right out from under us. We can’t criticize Israel. We can’t boycott Israel. The gears are grinding

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Anonymous #8 1w

My books are literally history books. Fascism originated from Mussolini, but also took forms in other regimes, like the Nazis. I’ve studied fascism in general, not just nazism.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Trump is a zionist facist. Got it 🤣👍

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Anonymous #8 1w

He is definitely a Zionist

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Anonymous #8 1w

do you think those terms are contradictory

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Anonymous #8 1w

You’re using Nazi and fascist as if they’re interchangeable, yet you claimed that fascism is just the government under Mussolini. Make up your mind.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Appealing for ethos doesn't make your argument any better, darling.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Not really, I just used the name nazi as an extension of your silly logic.

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Anonymous #8 1w

at some point this just has to be you yapping for the sake of yapping

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Anonymous #8 1w

Right, so would you rather listen to someone who hasn’t studied the subject, or someone who has?

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Anonymous #5 1w

Nazi also does not equal antisemite. All nazis were antisemites, not all antisemites are nazis. Same thing with fascism.

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Anonymous #8 1w

WHATTTT

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Anonymous #5 1w

All I've listened were claims from you that do not touch reality. You couldn't prove me wrong up to now.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Except it’s not “my silly logic.” How many more times do I need to tell you that Nazis and fascists aren’t 100% interchangeable? Nazis are fascists, fascists are not Nazis. Again, fascism is an umbrella term. At this point, I’m talking to a wall.

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Anonymous #10 1w

That's right. Some antisemites consider themselves Christians. Hitler hated Christians just as much as jews. History is not two-sided, darling. There is not good and evil. It's just different shapes of evil.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Have you studied fascism and authoritarianism bud? Don’t talk to me until you have ✌️

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Anonymous #5 1w

Not true. Nazis were not fascists because they were simply different political parties. They were allies. Your books are literally false.

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Anonymous #8 1w

“Your books are false.” Okay, so you’re just straight up anti-intellectual. I’m not arguing with a dumbass who think he knows better than someone who’s extensively studied this shit ✌️😭 Good day, sympathizer.

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Anonymous #5 1w

100% appeal to ethos and insults, yet can't say I'm wrong with arguments lmao. Weak debater.

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Anonymous #8 1w

can you explain what fascism is for us

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Anonymous #8 1w

Just ignore him.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I already did. Also I'm not talking to you. Go up if you're curious.

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Anonymous #8 1w

idk why youre not talking to me

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Anonymous #8 1w

You didn’t explain what fascism is bud. But I did. No debate to be had when you don’t know your shit ✌️

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Anonymous #1 1w

I'm polite enough to answer. That discussion however was with #5, although it seems that he/she chickened out lmao

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah right lol

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Anonymous #8 1w

fascism: "simply the authoritarian italian regime allied with nazis" not really a definition, just an instance. facism: "was also antisemite" uh ok. fascism: "was an italian authoritarian regime allied with nazis, and they were also antisemites" same thing, an instance golly im having a hard time with this "definition" youve given

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Anonymous #9 1w

this photo is literally so disgusting i’m embarrassed

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Anonymous #8 1w

You’re literally an anti-intellectual who denies history and books ✌️ there’s no debate to be had with you when you’re being a dumbass on purpose.

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Anonymous #8 1w

its hard to argue with some things. its impossible to argue with a vague allusion where no matter what you say, it isnt right

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Anonymous #5 1w

Ethos again lol

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Anonymous #8 1w

you and #7 are really similar. you yap and "argue" and yap, being condescending and saying you know more, but do nothing but refuse to set a foundation to actually converse upon, so anything anyone argues is naught because you disagree fundamentally

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Anonymous #8 1w

"ethos" you can use those words when youve defined fascism. for now, youre not arguing anything. no ethos, pathos, definitely not logos. just word stew

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Anonymous #1 1w

Saying that the ideology originated from an antisemite party could apply to a zionist president is nonsense. Hope you have a good day.

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Anonymous #8 1w

elon musk is a zionist. went to israel, did the whole shindig. that man is a nazi.

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Anonymous #1 1w

🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right

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Anonymous #8 1w

god i have a fucking compilation of my own of that dude holy lord thank you for giving me an excuse

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Anonymous #1 1w

I doubt Elon is doing this out of pure will. He’s too rich for his own good. Has to be involved now.

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Anonymous #8 1w

You keep on mentioning “ethos” as if it’s a “gotcha!” when it’s not. You’re just showing that you don’t know anything about the topic matter. You are LITERALLY anti-intellectual.

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Anonymous #8 1w

oh wait shit i cant actually argue if hes a nazi yet. can you define what a nazi is first so we can have a mutually agreed upon foundation to which i can make a claim? since me showing stuff will just be a fart in the wind otherwise

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Anonymous #1 1w

I swear #8 and #7 are like the same person bro

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Anonymous #8 1w

you have no right to say anyone is a "weak debater" when your "debating" is just literally saying nuh uh and denying anything that is said. i could ask you to define what an apple is and youd say it was a three dimensional object. i could ask you what a mammal was and youd say it has a tongue. like yea, but that applies to like a trillion other things that are entirely distinct

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Anonymous #5 1w

Not rlly a gotcha, it's just literally all you've been doing. There is the fascist ideology, and there is the nazi ideology, the same way there was the fascist party and the nazi party. Saying nazism is a type of fascism is nonsense unless you want to pick your own definition of things that happened in history. Fascism was born from the National Fascist Party while nazism was born from the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Not rocket science. Similar, but different.

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Anonymous #8 1w

what is fascism and what is nazism. tell us what they are, why theyre distinct, not that they are, and that theyre distinct.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yeah right bc you read a lot of books. I know someone that likes reading a lot of hentai mangas as well fr fr

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Anonymous #8 1w

didnt mention books. again, condescending yap from a tool who drools on his bib.

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Anonymous #8 1w

No one cares. No one legit cares. Just say why you think the trump administration is fascist. Yall arguing is dumb.

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Anonymous #14 1w

say why you think its fascist? thats been done. the reason we're here is because fascism is this amorphous thing that nothing ever is. you can say something is fascist but the definition of fascism changes faster than anything can chase it.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Nazism is a form of fascism. One Google search. Argument immediately dismantled. Start reading some books ✌️

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Anonymous #1 1w

They were both authoritarian, expansionist, antisemite, ideologies from their respective countries. Saying that nazism a type of fascism is like saying the National Socialist German Workers' Party was born in Italy. Nonsense.

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Anonymous #8 1w

You just proved yourself wrong in this single reply dude 😭 you’re actually just fucking dumb.

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Anonymous #5 1w

"It's true bro I saw on google" 🤌🥀🤣

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah right because trump is an antisemite.

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Anonymous #8 1w

so if someone was authoritarian and expansionist, what are they then?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Include antisemite there as well. You don't get to pick your own definition of factual things in history.

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Anonymous #1 1w

This isn’t going anywhere

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Anonymous #8 1w

i didnt define anything, can you read? that was the point of my question. if they werent antisemitic, but authoritarian and expansionist, what are they then?

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Anonymous #1 1w

As you said they are authoritarian and expansionist. If you want me to say fascist that would be wrong because it would require this person to also be an antisemite. That's literally my whole point.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Are now going to tell me fascists weren't antisemites? 💔🥀😭🙏😂😂😂😂😂

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Anonymous #8 1w

You’re just being so strict on the term. You don’t have to be antisemitic to be fascist

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Anonymous #10 1w

Absolutely wrong. They were antisemites.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Let me dumb it down for you. Nazism is a form of fascism that incorporates antisemitism. Francoist Spain and Estado Novo Portugal are also fascist regimes, but they aren’t Nazism, nor are they Italian.

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Anonymous #8 1w

im asking if a person, an individual, was authoritarian and expansionist, not antisemitic? how would you classify them? im not putting a label on them, im not commenting on if they are a fascist or a nazi or not. im asking YOU to specify what this individual is

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Anonymous #5 1w

Nope. They were both antisemites.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Saying this person an authoritarian and expansionist is it. I'm not against classifying people but the labels at the bare minimum need to be right.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Okay, let’s test how much you actually know. Give us an in-depth breakdown of what fascism is and sum up the Doctrine of Fascism for us.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Why don't you tell me how the fascists weren't antisemites? I've had enough of you guys asking me questions. Now good luck trying to break down that absolute nonsense 😂

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Anonymous #8 1w

Here we go with the deflection. Complete my request first and then I’ll get to you.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Hell no. Too much effort. I've written double the amount of messages you have. Your turn now.

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Anonymous #8 1w

Antisemitism is a major pillar of the ideology of the Nazi Party, which is a specific form of fascism. Antisemitism is NOT a defining feature of ALL the fascist regimes that have existed. For the hundredth time, you’re using Nazism and fascism as if they’re interchangeable. If you don’t believe in books, or even Google, where are you getting your info? Up your ass?

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Anonymous #8 1w

Ok. To fit the Italian fascist regime, maybe. But communists all hate different types of people. Cuba can still be communist without hating Ukraine and Europe.

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Anonymous #8 1w

You’re just being too strict on what you want to define it as, and you’d die on this hill. And it’s stupid

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Anonymous #8 1w

“Hell no” because you can’t. You can’t give me an explanation to what it is. You’ve been able to send more messages than me because all your messages are “nuh uh”

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Anonymous #5 1w

So you can't explain me how the fascists weren't antisemites, right? Yeah that's what I thought lol

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Anonymous #8 1w

I just did, dickhead 🤦‍♂️ fascism is an umbrella term. antisemitism is a pillar of Nazi ideology, not fascist ideology as whole.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Well I'm on the side of the truth rather than narratives. And the truth is that the fascists were antisemites. That's just how it was.

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Anonymous #8 1w

You are literally saying that any country with the same regime has to hate the same people. Many countries have the same regime but have different relationships with different groups of people. At this point I think you’re just a little rage baiter

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Anonymous #8 1w

Literally Google “are fascists anti semitic” Word for word. Google it.

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Anonymous #5 1w

"It's true sora ai told me" lmao

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Anonymous #8 1w

The Italian fascists were antisemites. Laos, a communist regime hate Hmong people, why the fuck would communists in Cuba hate these people? Both regimes are still communist, are they not?

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Anonymous #8 1w

“Antisemitism is central to the ideology of Nazism, a specific form of fascism, but is not a defining or necessary feature of fascism in all its forms. Historically fascist movements, such as the original one in Italy, were not inherently antisemetic, while others were.” Here’s your L.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Italy is really the only big historical fascist government, of course they’re only going to rely on Italy. The whole philosophy can still carry over to different regions and change to hate different people.

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Anonymous #10 1w

Communism is a political system not a regime.

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Anonymous #8 1w

North Korea is a Communist Regime 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #5 1w

Source: sora ai 🥀🥀🥀

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Anonymous #8 1w

Right, so since you don’t use books, or even simply the Internet, where have you been pulling your sources? Again, up your ass?

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Anonymous #10 1w

LMAO

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Anonymous #5 1w

Using internet for sources and using sora ai to formulate opinions are two very different things.

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Anonymous #8 1w

AI can’t form opinions dumbass 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #5 1w

Communism by itself is a political system which many regimes adopted. So?

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Anonymous #8 1w

You can’t even argue about fascism, we are NOT gonna move onto communism bud 😭🙏

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Anonymous #5 1w

Saying the fascists weren't antisemites even though they persecuted jews is a wrong opinion. A very wrong one.

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Anonymous #5 1w

Yeah right bc it was me who mentioned communism

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Anonymous #8 1w

That’s not even an opinion. I didn’t type any opinion into a search bar. I literally told you what I typed: “are fascists anti semitic?” That doesn’t sound like an opinion to me 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #8 1w

Also. Was fascist Italy like, not fascist before allying with Hitler? Mussolini wasn’t antisemitic until he met Hitler. Did he become fascist then? Was pre Hitler & Mussolini meeting not fascist Italy? Fascist Italy wasn’t originally antisemitic

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Anonymous #5 1w

"No they weren't antisemites. Yes they persecuted jews but they weren't antisemites." Source: sora ai 🥀🥀🥀😭🙏

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Anonymous #8 1w

I can’t with this guy 😂😂

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Anonymous #8 1w

For the TWO hundredth time, you’re using Nazism and fascism as if they’re interchangeable. You’re actually a bot 😭🙏

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Anonymous #10 1w

#8 is a jackass bro 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #10 1w

Yeah they just killed a bunch of jews bc they were asked to. Hitler: Can you kill ze Juzz plis? 🥺 Mulilili: yes 🥹

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Anonymous #8 1w

I mean…. Why wouldn’t that happen? Two authoritarian power houses that treat their citizens like shit seeking allies. Do allies like, not align with each other or…

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Anonymous #8 1w

OG fascism existed before Nazism you dick 🤦‍♂️

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Anonymous #5 1w

I am convinced he is rage bait or just dumb as fuck

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Anonymous #10 1w

No seriously, it’s one of the two. Either we’re just being ragebaited by another left-wing person or this dude is genuinely an imbecile 😭

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Anonymous #8 1w

Hitler’s whole political ideology was begging for hatred against other people and all of the sudden you think he wouldn’t ask Mussolini for help. Hitler literally convinced people to burn people alive and you think he wasn’t capable of persuading Mussolini

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Anonymous #10 1w

Yk what in this case I take the L

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Anonymous #8 1w

All this yapping and you could have given an actual definition for fascism and summed up the Doctrine of Fascism (which is actually a really short doctrine).

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