Anonymous #1 4d

cool i’m talking about america

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Anonymous #1 4d

this is US politics isn’t it?

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Anonymous #2 4d

can you read?

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Anonymous OP 4d

There are settings in which minorities are dominant in America. Companies, towns, areas, etc. That comes with power and potential for abuse, abuse that has been documented. Among the Indian community for example there is an issue of casteism where Indians in management of a higher caste have been known to purposefully stifle the careers of low caste people and hinder their access to opportunities. Chinese restaurants also exclude non Chinese people from their cheaper supply chains

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Anonymous #1 4d

those are examples of individual or group-level prejudice, not systemic racism. systemic racism refers to nationwide structures that shape outcomes and historically favor white people, not isolated cases of bias within specific communities, companies, or towns.

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Anonymous OP 4d

No, systemic racism can refer to localities too, and certain industries do create systemic oppression. Redlining is a classical example—it was limited to localities and only one particular industry that still had an outsized effect on material life outcomes

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Anonymous OP 4d

Yes, obviously I can read. I just ignored your point about systemic racism bc poc can be arbiters of systemic racism too. There are poc of color in positions of power in America. When you accuse someone of being racist, you don’t accuse them of systemically oppressing a group of people. You say that they’re racially profiling someone bc of their race, whether it be in a position of power or some random person on the street.

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Anonymous #1 4d

redlining was local in scale while still part of a national system of racial hierarchy backed by government policy and financial institutions. local or industry-specific systems can reinforce systemic racism but they still operate within a broader national framework of unequal power. isolated cases where minorities hold influence don’t compare bc they don’t have that historical, structural backing or as big of a nationwide impact.

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Anonymous OP 4d

The Chinese supply chain thing is nationwide, as is certain Indians in management level positions using said positions to enact casteism. You won’t gain too much power in Utah if you’re not Mormon either. I feel like this is just a pointless abstraction and moving of goalposts—yes, people in power can often behave tribally and dickishly. This also distracts from the class divide being a much larger driver of racism imo

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Anonymous #1 4d

but those are localized power dynamics, not systemic racism. the key distinction is scale and historical entrenchment. chinese or indian communities may have influence in specific industries, and mormons may dominate utah, but those systems don’t have the same nationwide institutional reach or legal and cultural history that white supremacy has in shaping american society.

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Anonymous #1 4d

class matters for sure, but class and race intersect such that systemic racism amplifies class divides rather than being replaced by them.

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Anonymous #2 4d

you’re missing the point. no one’s denying that poc can be racist or biased. but systemic racism isn’t about individual attitudes, it’s about how laws and institutions have been built to favor white people for centuries. when we talk about systemic racism, we’re talking about power structures, not some random person being rude. pretending it’s all the same thing just ignores who actually benefits from the system.

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Anonymous OP 4d

I guess my question would be what laws are in place that push poc down.

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