Wars are won by accomplishing political goals, not by how much stuff you blew up. If Iran’s regime is still intact, even to the point we are trying to PAY THEM to open the strait, they have won

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The fact we’re in a worse negotiating position than we were before this war started might be a loss by itself. The misunderstanding was so bad that the Omani mediators literally came to DC and were like “do you know wtf they just offered you???”

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