Anonymous #2 11w

the USA and Europe defeated nationalism and socialism in WW2 (nazis) but now trump and mamdani are bringing it back

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Anonymous OP 11w

who occupied the capital of germany when they surrendered?

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Anonymous OP 11w

calling the nazis “socialists” 💔

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Anonymous OP 11w

Me when I think Nazis were socialist

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Anonymous #2 11w

The Allies, aka anti socialists/nationalist

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Anonymous OP 11w

nope, the commintern did

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

nazis used government overreach, THATS what makes them socialists

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Anonymous OP 11w

sorry, but what part of the working class owning the means of production, distribution, and exchange is “government overreach”

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Anonymous OP 11w

government overreach is a behavior of any totalitarian state

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Anonymous #4 11w

Me when im the only poli sci major here

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Anonymous OP 11w

he couldn’t decide if poli sci was one or two words so he posted both

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

working class has nothing to do with ideology, thats for the department of labor. government overreach looks like illegal tariffs (trump) and sharia law (mamdani)

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Anonymous #2 11w

AKA a socialist one

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Anonymous OP 11w

wait so what you’re arguing is that socialism and the working class have nothing to do with each other?

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Anonymous OP 11w

did you give yourself your poli sci degree or

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Anonymous #2 11w

nope, comintern was part of the socialists

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Anonymous #2 11w

they don't have anything to do with each other. The working class is a categorical term for labor laws. Socialism is a form of nationalism and vice versa

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

Google is notoriously unreliable since its openly working with the socialist trump admin. Meanwhile I have RESEARCHED my definitions

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Anonymous OP 11w

yes, they were socialists, you got one. they were also lead by the soviet union. and the soviet union, it’s official name being (union of soviet socialist republics) occupied berlin at the end of WW2

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Anonymous #2 11w

Ad hominem

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Anonymous #2 11w

Soviet union was invaded and then saved by the allies

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Anonymous OP 11w

Yes here in NYC I was just forced to perform Isha at gunpoint. Allahu akbar

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Anonymous OP 11w

the ad hominem was in rhetoric outside my argument. if you can’t stand to keep reading after a slight i understand

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Anonymous OP 11w

oh brother, clearly fucking not. socialism prioritizes class solidarity meanwhile nationalism prioritizes national identity.

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Anonymous #4 11w

Not sure if your joking but if you arent I hope you find safety soon. Its a crime what Mamdani and socialist Islam are doing to America's greatest city

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

Wrong. Socialism tries to control everything (jobs, prices) and nationalism does it but for the country - both done with BIG GOVERNMENT, AKA THERE THE SAME THING

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Anonymous OP 11w

please finish learning english before you move to latin, it makes reading your arguments tedious. your post before this you used “your” wrong, and in this post you just did the same with “there” which should be they’re*

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Anonymous #2 11w

careful, he’s gonna say “ad hominem”

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

im not making an argument, just a request. hopefully he understands it wouldnt mean anything here

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

Because it is 😂

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Anonymous OP 11w

guys Rome was actually socialist because emperors used gov overreach and was heavily centralized

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Anonymous OP 11w

and right on time. youtube university must be serving you well

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Anonymous #2 11w

Latin is a dead language, and i speak english just fine, obviously since I'm the only one who knows what socialism is

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Anonymous OP 11w

“everyone else is wrong but me! and i know english well i just can’t spell!”

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Anonymous #2 11w

IDK if your serious about Rome but if you are then YES you are finally starting to get it

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

Yes. Spelling doesn't matter if your eight

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Anonymous OP 11w

*right

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Anonymous OP 11w

slavery is the antithesis of socialism, can you agree with me on that?

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Anonymous #2 11w

no slavery is pure socialism since the government owns you and your labor

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Radical centrism

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Anonymous OP 11w

the definition of socialism is the worker owning the labor.

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Anonymous OP 11w

the government didn’t own slaves, capitalist southerners did

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Anonymous OP 11w

can you explain to me how making decisions that benefit all members of a society is the same as prioritizing and believing your nation is better than all others

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i think he’s similar to a libertarian but it seems he’s unable to differentiate socialism from any other authoritarian behavior of government

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

wait wait wait, careful saying that there is a meaningful difference between these two

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Anonymous OP 11w

Nazis weren’t socialists…

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 11w

it’s basically the same as a modern german political party putting populist in their name

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Anonymous #7 11w

oh yes i am baby. Stalin is my favorite example because he was an insane nationalist who genocided Ukranians, estonians, and poles. but was the head of arguable the least nationalist (internal structure wise) socialist state which was basically at 15 or 16 nations or whatever

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Anonymous #2 11w

Mao zedong & Fidel Castro w the Cuban revolution are pretty strong examples

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Anonymous #2 11w

Also fyi socialism is defined as workers or society collectively owning the means of production (factories, businesses, resources). Workers own their labor under capitalism

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Anonymous #2 11w

Exactly

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Anonymous OP 11w

campist i hope your tent burns and with it your reductive false dichotomies

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It's called being a common sense American 🇺🇸

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Anonymous #4 11w

Centrism is the right way to govern though. You get a bit of everything while also pushing away radial ideologies like socialism and nationalism

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Anonymous #2 11w

no the definition of socialism is government over reach. Stop with your google/wikipedia searches, there not accurate (im literally a poli sci major)

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

weather it was the government or the people they were socialists

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Anonymous nopeish 11w

nice false dichotomy. One doesn't necessarily mean the other but when it involves government over reach it doesnt matter the intent, its socialism. Thats why Trump and Mamdani are essentially the same

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Anonymous #2 11w

Socialism IS authoritarianism

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Thats a compliment

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Anonymous #2 11w

The meaningful difference is that the intent leads to the same outcome

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Anonymous themind._.ofhueyfreeman25 11w

Nazis were socialists, its in there German party name

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Anonymous #2 11w

well lables dont matter, if there pro government overreach there socialists

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Anonymous #8 11w

Name calling ≠ being correct

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Anonymous OP 11w

And not a very good one at that

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