The Epstein client list

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Anonymous #10 6w

Literally

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Anonymous #13 6w

Christians do the same thing- hope this helps

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Anonymous #14 6w

Curious, do you have any statistics to support your claim that child marriage happens as often in American Christian culture as it does in Islam?

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Anonymous #14 6w

Lmao actually no, biblical law calls for the execution of pedos actually.

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Anonymous #15 6w

Marriage obviously not but let’s compare how many American Christian’s rape children vs American Muslims

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Anonymous #2 6w

It’s obviously Muslims lmaoooo

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Anonymous #10 6w

Lmaooo

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Anonymous #2 6w

That’s clergy members not all members, and what about the 70,000 girls in Britain who were trafficked and raped by wonderful Muslim immigrants?

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Anonymous #13 6w

I like how quickly you dismiss the clergy members that raped children because it didn’t fit your narrative

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Anonymous #4 6w

I like how you dismissed the 99% of the church to fit your narrative

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Anonymous #13 6w

What’s my narrative?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Islam isn’t the the. We really are both arguing that child rape is bad, if it were to me all rape, especially of a child should be the death penalty, regardless of race religion etc, I’m sure you would agree. I’m taking the stance that a majority of these crimes are committed by islamists and can give my reasons if you want. While I’m focusing on that specific group you are looking at the rest of the perpetrators it seems to me.

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Anonymous #13 6w

If you think all rape is bad why did you immediately dismiss incidents of rape within the church?

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Anonymous #4 6w

I wouldn’t say I dismissed it, I pointed out that the statistic was being misinterpreted or used

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Anonymous #13 6w

That’s exactly what you did lol. You didn’t even bother condemning the practice or criticizing the church for permitting behavior like that. You immediately pivoted

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Anonymous #13 6w

“What about”

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Anonymous #4 6w

Fair enough, would you say you are against rape

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Anonymous #13 6w

That’s now two times that you’ve gone out of your way not to condemn the church for permitting this behavior

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Anonymous #4 6w

This is where you’re wrong, the church doesn’t permit that behavior or have it as a practice. We heavily condemn it actually. Certain individuals are evil and use positions of influence to take advantage of people. This is observed significantly more frequently in public schools. Are you saying that schools “permit behavior like that” and “don’t condemn that practice?”

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Anonymous #11 6w

The church would disagree with you on that

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Anonymous #4 6w

I condemned all rapists, you only have condemned the church clergy

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Anonymous #13 6w

Only the church clergy

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Anonymous #13 6w

You already acknowledged we agree that child rape and rape is bad. You pretending like that’s in contention at all is hilarious when you already acknowledged that I held that position

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Anonymous #4 6w

Ah so you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what “the church” is. Christians are followers of Jesus Christ who live by the teachings of the Bible. Christians as a whole make up “the church”. If someone rapes a child, they are going against the teachings of the Bible and are therefore not part of the church. Those are inherently contradictory.

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Anonymous #11 6w

Modern “Churches” are localized establishments run by individuals and are susceptible corruption, as any human-ran entity is. Schools are similarly vulnerable. Additionally both instances that you showed of an institution covering up that behavior were referenced to European Catholic Churches. The Vatican and other Catholic Churches are rejected by Protestants who make up the vast majority of Christians in America.

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Anonymous #11 6w

Also, you never answered my question: Since the same things you mentioned happen in schools on a much larger scale, are you saying that schools "permit behavior like that" and "don't condemn that practice?"

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Anonymous #4 6w

I said I imagine you do, you never conformed to be fair

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Anonymous #13 6w

You think I’m against rape because I pointed out your dismissal of child rape within the church

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Anonymous #4 6w

It’s starting to seem like you are anti catholic and don’t care about anything else tbh

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Anonymous #13 6w

I am anti catholic. It’s idiotic to pretend that I’m criticizing child rape because I agree with it. Why did you try to pivot when it was brought up?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Dude the only thing you’ve criticized is the church, doing so by using rape as a tool

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Anonymous #13 6w

I criticized the church because they permitted child rape. Good strawman! Try again maybe it’ll work the second time Answer, why did you try to pivot from the church?

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Anonymous #4 6w

I get why your criticizing them, and I’m not defending them, I could ask why you pivoted away from Islam. I pivoted to bring the spot light back to that

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Anonymous #13 6w

So you admit you pivoted! When you saw that the catholic church had the highest number of of sexual abuse cases you tried to minimize that information by qualifying it as clergy members only, as if that matters when talking about child rape When someone else brought up the church you literally went “what about” and pivoted back to islam.

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Anonymous #4 6w

I pointed out a fact you purposely or accidentally ignored, I’m trying to look at a majority of cases while you are trying to paint a small minority as the majority

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Anonymous #13 6w

Why does the qualification of clergy members matter when referring to the issue of children being raped? And why is it okay for you to arbitrarily decide what is and isn’t important? You saw evidence of child rape in the church and went “what about this other thing”

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Anonymous #4 6w

I went well if that’s bad then you should also hate these people

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Anonymous #13 6w

You literally said “what about this other thing” in response to being told that children got raped inside the church Do you condemn the church for permitting this behavior?

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Anonymous #4 6w

I already said I did, along with everyone else who commits or permits these crimes. I really wasn’t trying to defend these people, rather I was trying to expose a group who systemically allow, defend and even commend sexual assault

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Anonymous #13 6w

Another, larger group than the Catholic Church

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Anonymous #13 6w

Do you condemn christianity as a religion for encouraging this behavior as well, the same way you condemn islam?

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Anonymous #13 6w

You think you’re exposing a group that has less sociopolitical and institutional power here in the US instead of the religion that makes up at least 70% of the country?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Before you defend Islam I’d do a bit of research into their history and practices

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Anonymous #13 6w

I’m not defending islam. Use your brain. I’m saying you’re trying to expose a group that has less sociopolitical power and notoriety. Why would you intentionally not bring up the group that has the highest number of child sex abuse cases within their religious institutions?

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Anonymous #4 6w

Because I brought up a group that has higher number of cases in general, and warships a guy who married a 6 year old, and you definitely seem like your defending them

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Anonymous #13 6w

World wide

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Anonymous #13 6w

You definitely seem like you only care about child rape when it comes to islam. Worldwide christianity is one of the biggest religions, in the US where we live, it is why are you choosing not to expose them? Why is child rape only bad to you when it’s from islam?

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Anonymous #13 6w

Islamic fundamentalists are more of an issue in the Middle East more than in the US, since some countries there operate under sharia law. Muslims in the US generally don’t hold beliefs that wild

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Anonymous #11 6w

No, I just reject the idea that the church is a separate entity than the people who control what happens in the church

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Anonymous #11 6w

I’m talking about “the church” There’s no “the school” in this context

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Anonymous #4 6w

That’s exactly my point. The idea of “The church” that you have in your head doesn’t exist. “The church” consists of those who believe in Christ and follow his teachings, which in no way support or allow pedophilia. You are complaining about individual churches, which again, are institutions that can be corrupted by evil people. Just like schools.

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Anonymous #11 6w

Back to my very easy to understand metaphor: You’re essentially saying “look at all these public schools who allowed child grapes, this must mean that school as a concept permits that behavior!”

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Anonymous #11 6w

Yes it does. The catholic church is “the church” And even granting the idea that somehow they’re separate, the religions existence has granted these people to take power using ideological beliefs and then prevent the consequences of rape of children

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Anonymous #11 6w

And it’s such a dismissive thing to do when talking about child rape to try and just blame it on “evil people” as if things like this weren’t covered up for decades Do you condemn the Catholic Church for hiding child rape?

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Anonymous #4 6w

So I see you missed a few of my replies… Hate to break it to you but the Catholic Church is not “the church” 😭 Only Catholics claim that about themselves, Protestants reject this completely. They don’t control what happens in the church I assure you. They control what happens within in their respective congregations, but again that’s not Christianity.

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Anonymous #11 6w

Again, I just reject the premise lol. The church exists because people run it, Christianity exists because people continue to believe and perpetuate it. And speaking of the protestants they’re all facing extremely bad scandals for covering up sex abuse. It seems to be a trait.

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Anonymous #4 6w

What are you talking about 😭 It’s dismissive to call rapists evil people? I know you feel like your beliefs are being attacked but take a second to breathe and think about your arguments. And of course I condemn them. The Catholic Church is full of a bunch of power hungry heretics that use their position of power to do heinous things.

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Anonymous #11 6w

It’s dismissive to pretend sexually abusing kids and then decades worth of covering it up by authority figures within the church is just “a few evil people” My beliefs aren’t being attacked lmao. I just reject your argument/premise because it lacks actual substance Do you condemn the Protestant Church that’s been doing the same thing?

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Anonymous #4 6w

I never said it was just “a few evil people”, you’re literally making stuff up. You’re welcome to reject “my argument” but I assure you that would be a move of willful ignorance. “My argument” is just facts about the world and this can be easily backed up by a basic amount of research. I don’t condemn the “Protestant church”because again, it’s a belief system that actively rejects rape. But I do gladly condemn all churches of any denomination that choose to partake in that behavior.

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Anonymous #11 6w

That’s literally what you were saying, “certain individuals are evil” is just the exact phasing. It would be a move of willful ignorance according to? Your argument is that the church doesn’t exist despite the idea of it existing because it’s being run by people not being proven wrong

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Anonymous #4 6w

I’ve explained this very simply and I honestly don’t feel like spending time re-wording the exact same concepts for you. If you ever feel like expanding your worldview you can go back and re-read, but I’m not going to entertain blatant mischaracterizations.

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Anonymous #11 6w

You calling them mischaracterizations doesn’t actually make them that.

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Anonymous #16 6w

Except for when they want American citizens dead and use their following in the US to carry out plans

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Anonymous #11 5w

no true scotsman fallacy

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Anonymous #18 5w

"when muslims do it its a reflection of islam as a whole but when christians do it its a reflection of certain evil individuals" - #11

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Anonymous #18 5w

Bingo. Islam has those practices written into their religious texts as normalized behaviors, and their greatest prophets partook in them directly. (Eg. Muhammad and his 6 year old wife Aisha) Jesus and The Bible on the other hand teach the opposite. Therefore people who call themselves Christians and do those things aren’t following Christianity, they’re just larping a religious title for some reason. Muslims on the other hand, when they do those things, are actually following their religion.

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