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I’m surprised at the amount of people who are saying like “oh he’s <insert left or right> which means that <Republican/Democrat> rhetoric caused this” instead of “this guy is categorically insane and there probably isn’t a reasonable explanation”
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Anonymous 5d

I’ve been saying this, like sure the odds are good he was on the right but I think we live in a world so tainted by political hate that we forget that sometimes people kill people just because they can and want to

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Anonymous 5d

It was fun when the guy who shot Reagan was just trying to impress Jodie Foster

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Anonymous 5d

This exact thought process erases the reason things happen. People find it so easy to call right wing extremists Nazis but the second there’s even a POSSIBLE left wing extremist… “oh he’s insane, couldn’t have been a real motive.” Start giving credit to the people who’s words are parroted by the one who does these things

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5d

Yeah and like I’m not even doubting it could’ve been motivated by his political beliefs but at the same time is that even a reason to go make generalizations about half the country? Was it really caused by “Democrat/Republican rhetoric” or is he just an insane person that chose to kill someone he doesn’t really like because of their politics?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5d

The problem is that despite the fact that he probably just killed him for the sake of killing him, politicians in office are making it a left vs. right thing

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 5d

Yeah I agree. It’s a bit scary how quickly a lot of the people on the right jumped out to say “this was caused by the radical left and we need to punish them” and shit like that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

From my understanding this kid’s politics are still pretty ambiguous so I’m trying to extend the same fairness to both sides regardless of what comes out later. If it turns out that this is the work of some politically motivated group or he was radicalized by some very politically charged group, then I think we can fairly have the discussion about him being a political terrorist. I think it’s just as likely he’s an insane person who came up with this plan because of a personal distaste for Kirk

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

It’s a little bit different compared to someone like the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooter or Dylan Roof where they openly declared their neo-Nazi beliefs. We still don’t know much about what sparked Tyler Robinson to do this

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5d

A personal distaste for Kirk IS political. The man was literally only relevant for his political OPINIONS, as he was a civilian with no authority on policy. Why does it need to have been a “radicalized group?” A bullet was engraved with “Hey fascist, catch” — these are words parroted from the mainstream, not some specific group. It’s time we acknowledge people are being radicalized by mainstream language that is being used to target mainstream groups of people. Kirk was literally a moderate

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

Ok sure, his distaste for Charlie Kirk itself probably lies in his political beliefs. But what I’m trying to say is that I think there’s a difference between being an insane person who kills someone they disagree with for some arbitrary reason, and being a fairly normal person who is radicalized into believing that killing someone else is the right thing to do for political reasons. Without having any concrete idea of his motivations, it feels way too early to start blaming left/right rhetoric

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 5d

Like, if you want to make these general statements about how “mainstream leftist media” radicalized him to kill Charlie Kirk, then there’s going to need to be some additional evidence of that. This kid seems like a freak who was involved in online political discourse but we really don’t know if this is a part of some greater plan or if he was trying to get some weird fucking clout with his Discord friends or whatever. Also, lol at “Kirk was a moderate.” I don’t think he’d even say that

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5d

If we can be so quick to blame the 2A for gun violence before we even know if the gun was acquired legally, we can call out the mirroring of rhetoric when used DURING a specific action. It’s like saying the person who murdered the two Israeli embassy workers while yelling free Palestine is too early to tell what the motivation was.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 5d

I should said “moderate conservative” not just plain moderate, but he quite literally was. He was nowhere near extreme in the conservative movement and 95% of his positions was not even remotely controversial 20 years ago

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