Anonymous #1 1d

Alain Van Heil did one in 2011 look it up!

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Anonymous #2 1d

Because no group of people is a monolith? What😭

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Anonymous #2 1d

And why both the right and some fringe factions on the left both believe that immigration should be restricted to avoid giving employers too much power over workers and minimizing the bargaining power of workers?

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Anonymous #2 1d

“The left” and you mean the Democratic Party lmfaoooo

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Anonymous OP 1d

No, I’m actually talking about the Danish Social Democrats and the BSW in Germany

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Anonymous #2 1d

…which are still centrist movements and describe themselves as such-

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Anonymous #2 1d

Because both of those groups are more libertarian and tend to want more rights. There are also authoritarians on both sides who want to restrict gun rights or take them away entirely.

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Anonymous OP 1d

They absolutely do not describe themselves as such. BSW is split from Die Linke. Literally “The Left”

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Anonymous #3 1d

Hmmm almost like they agree on some things in some respect…

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Anonymous #2 1d

Is it an oversimplification? Absolutely. But is it “fascist propaganda”? No. It was specifically used to describe some of the alliances and agreements between the Nazis and the KPD (of course, the Nazis’ agreements with the SPD are worth mentioning)

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Anonymous #2 1d

Oh yea?

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Anonymous OP 1d

Oh yea.

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Anonymous #2 1d

And?

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Anonymous OP 1d

That’s not how they described themselves. That’s how political scientists describe them. They describe themselves as social democrats who support the “class struggle” (but only for white people)

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Anonymous OP 1d

Unless you use a different definition of centrism, they have never described themselves as centrists. No one has described them as such.

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Anonymous #3 1d

More rights? Both of them agree on limiting free speech, but for different reasons

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Anonymous #2 1d

Authoritarians on both sides sure do, meanwhile there are libertarians on both sides who are opposed to limiting free speech. Almost like boiling politics down to left vs right is a massive oversimplification.

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Anonymous #2 1d

That’s wild because even entry level leftist theory characterizes “social democracy” as a centrist movement that is counterintuitive to leftism, which means you’re again mistaking centrists for leftists. Maybe you should look into the fishhook theory

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Anonymous #3 1d

I did say this was an oversimplification, but got downvoted for saying so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anonymous #2 1d

I never even downvoted you what😭

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Anonymous OP 1d

Advocating for the fishhook theory but believing the horseshoe theory shouldn’t be taken at least somewhat seriously is certainly a take…both are huge oversimplifications but are useful to consider in some respects

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Anonymous OP 1d

Wasn’t talking to you…

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Anonymous OP 1d

Ironic

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Anonymous #4 1d

in what way?

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Anonymous #5 1d

Last name

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Anonymous #6 1d

Me when I cope to be an L centrist and a bootlicker

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Anonymous OP 1d

Me when I claim something is a fact to reinforce my worldview with no regard to truth

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Anonymous OP 1d

Did your little ego get hurt being on the bottom? Here, you can be on top big man

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Anonymous #6 1d

Oh you sound crazy😹

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Anonymous OP 1d

It checks out that the most basic and easy to understand sentences you’d struggle to compute

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Anonymous #6 1d

???

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Anonymous #6 1d

Dawg dick rides either side so hard

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