Anonymous #1 2d

online leftists that don’t believe in voting don’t represent the democratic base

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Anonymous #1 2d

Yes, anyone like mamdani.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Well Mamdani isn’t eligible, so that’s not an option

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Anonymous #3 2d

Unless this is about progressive dems vs moderate dems?

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Anonymous #1 2d

“Anyone like” Fucking read.

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Anonymous #3 2d

Fr I’m not sure why people are using a single focus group with hypothetical candidates as evidence. We need polls with actual names

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Are you saying AOC is like Mamdani?

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Anonymous #1 2d

No? Where did I say anything even remotely like that.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Ur kinda dumb huh

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

my bad, misinterpreted the “yes”

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Anonymous #1 2d

Right. I’m sure if you presented trump’s policies without the name to a group of conservatives, they’d vote against him. Name and likeness unfortunately carry a lot of weight in our elections

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

So…who?

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Anonymous #1 2d

Ah okay my bad for jumping down your throat then. Still don’t like you tho

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Anonymous #1 2d

Idk. Someone with the energy of mamdani. Someone like that doesn’t really exist in the modern democratic landscape, but that’s only because the modern democrats ruthlessly cut them down to preserve the neoliberal grift.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Ilhan Omar? Idk id vote for her if she ran but i dont think she will.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Just someone like that.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Leftists have had a year to at least make someone vaguely known in leftist circles. The fact that there’s still no name for a possible leftist-backed candidate means we’re cooked

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Anonymous #1 2d

Eh it’s a universal problem. Who do the dems have? Gavin newsom? What about the gop, JD Vance? Nobody is in a good spot right now. But because of people like mamdani, or Katie wilson, or Mary Sheffield, there’s more energy for the progressives than there is for the dems or the gop.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Frankly, we could find someone a year out from the elections, and as long as they can generate similar energy to mamdani, we’d win.

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Anonymous #1 2d

I’m not saying we will I’m just saying a path to victory does clearly exist.

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Anonymous #1 2d

He’s not a progressive, but I’m kind of getting impatient with KY Governor Andy Beshear since he’s dragging his feet. He’s a white, straight, cis man governing an Appalachian state, has a great personality, level headed, great policies (despite a GOP super majority congress striking everything down), and I think he’d stand a real chance. But he’s waiting to see if “someone better” steps up so he can support them instead. He just needs to commit.

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Anonymous #3 2d

And before anyone misconstrues my comment, I mention that he’s white, straight and cis not because I think people of those demographics are better, but because I know women and people of color historically struggle to win over moderates and on-the-edge conservatives

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Anonymous #3 2d

Can’t stomach a moderate anymore, we tried it over and over and it failed. I don’t hate beshear. He’d be better short term than Vance or newsom. But if we’re climbing out of this hole, we need a fucking knockout, not someone who will try to just return us to the Obama era status quo

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Anonymous #3 2d

Woke woke woke lol

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Anonymous #3 2d

No same, I don’t understand what that man is doing. I’m convinced someone is threatening him or otherwise convincing him not to run 💀

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

By “not progressive”, I more so mean that he can’t be progressive under the circumstances of the Kentucky legislature. He’s also no Bernie, but realistically there are no other Bernies with any sort of position in the larger government. I certainly wouldn’t call Beshear a moderate.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Frankly I think the democrats know that as long as they continue to serve the interests of corporations while in office, any democrat president will see historic unpopularity like Biden did. I don’t think any corporate leaning democrat is comfortable running that isn’t already clouded in shame. That’s why the two front runners are Kamala and Gavin.

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Anonymous #1 2d

He hyped up an announcement this week then dropped a fucking book 💀 like bro I love you but PLEASE we were all disappointed

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Anonymous #3 2d

💀💀💀

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Anonymous #3 2d

But this is like, sort of the rot I’m talking about right? People like beshear don’t want to make change they wanna make dollars.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Hey Bernie got most of his wealth from his book too lol

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Anonymous #1 2d

Right but Bernie ran.

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Anonymous #1 2d

Bernie, like, did shit. Shit the only reason he isn’t running now is because he’s decrepit.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

I wholeheartedly disagree. I live in Kentucky now so maybe I’m biased, but I see all the work he does and how hard he pushes back against the insane GOP here, not in the interest of corporations. Between disaster relief, cancer research, energy saving programs, first time home buyer programs, and other community initiatives, he’s trying hard as hell.

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Anonymous #3 2d

Listen I’m not shitting on beshear too hard. I like him.

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Anonymous #3 2d

If you made me pick between him, Kamala, or newsom for 2028 I’d pick him a million times over.

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Anonymous #3 2d

But his hesitation makes me think if he took the job, he wouldn’t be able to be the kind of explosion i think we need to survive.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

To shed a little light on it, he appears to be holding back to see if anyone “better” will run, then he wants to support that candidate. Basically, he’s keeping the wellbeing of the country overall in mind, over his own interests. If no one better runs, he’s willing to step in. But that’s just what he’s said, obviously politicians historically are not the most honest people.

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Anonymous #3 2d

Man, I’m kinda scared he thinks more qualified means Gavin newsom.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Two of Bernie’s successful books were written before 2016

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Anonymous #1 2d

So what? Do you think my issue with beshear is that he’s writing a book…?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Was that not the implication here?

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Anonymous #1 2d

My issue with beshear is that I feel he ultimately serves the same corporate interests as other democrats. If maybe less so, and that they refuse to meet the moment. My issue with beshear isn’t that he wrote a book, it’s that he wrote a book instead of running for president and campaigning, like, now. Bernie doesn’t really do that, man. He meets the moment.

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Anonymous #1 2d

No, the implication was that beshear serves corporate interests. My issue with him writing and releasing a book is that he’s doing it instead of more national political action.

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Anonymous #1 2d

I can see how you’d get that from that, but I feel like I’ve explained it a couple times now, do you get what I mean?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

I see what you mean now. What evidence is there that he serves corporate interests though? He’s pro-union, acknowledges climate change, and believes healthcare is a human right

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Anonymous #3 2d

Ahh fuck I see. Well he’s not doing us much good 💀 Newsom doesn’t poll well against Vance

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Anonymous #1 2d

nvm seems somewhat close, but too close for comfort. The ties to CA are serious baggage and I’m sure an ad that just shows pictures of bad areas of SF would do numbers in the south and rural areas

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Anonymous #1 2d

Honestly, a lot of it is Gaza. I need him to be more vocal, closer to talarico. Otherwise I can’t trust him not to be bought out.

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Anonymous #1 2d

And to be clear, I think he’s internally pro Palestinian. But like…. He won’t say it very loud…? And I need someone who will be an explosion.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Yeah that’s fair. He chalks up some of that to “well I’m not the president” which is absolutely fair since governors don’t set foreign policy. KY doesn’t appear to hold Israel Bonds but I didn’t check thoroughly. He should call for the anti-BDS legislation to be repealed

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Anonymous #4 2d

They were randomly selected by the NYT, take that as you will

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Anonymous #4 2d

It’s not, it’s just a focus group https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/02/17/opinion/focus-group-democrats.html

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Anonymous #1 2d

Yeah but you have to have balls. We need a candidate with balls.

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Anonymous #1 2d

The Democrat autopsy of 2024 would give us more concrete data, but Oop, weirdly they don’t wanna do one.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

The DNC doesn’t have a monopoly on polling that might point to why they lost

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Anonymous #1 2d

And yet they still make great effort to hide it.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

Says who?

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Anonymous #1 2d

DNC chair Ken Martin literally flamed the DNC for not releasing the 2016 autopsy report when they lost then chose not to release the 2024 autopsy because they want to “focus on future wins” and not “divide the party” and made the decision bc of “Democratic shareholders”

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Anonymous #1 2d

The dnc? Who refused to release an autopsy?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 2d

It sounded to me like you were implying they tried to hide polling from the other orgs, maybe I misunderstood

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Anonymous #2 2d

Yeahhh I don’t really agree with that very much. It was definitely going to lead to infighting and finger pointing but I think that would have subsided at some point. And even without the report, that still ensued (and hasn’t exactly subsided)

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