Anonymous #1 12h

You would vote for nobody in this election because you have no principles worth taking seriously. This is a race between a member of the fascist party of the United States and a pretty normal guy. If you’re not willing to vote against the Nazi, you don’t get to pretend you’re a serious person.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 12h

Cry me a river loser

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 12h

I have beliefs that I'm serious about and not willing to compromise on

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Anonymous #1 12h

You have beliefs you’re serious about but you don’t have beliefs worth taking seriously. If you step aside for Nazis you’re a loser and a traitor.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 12h

Well maybe try respecting people's rights and you wouldn't have to deal with people who didn't respect yours

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Anonymous #1 12h

What you seem to be referring to is specifically keeping your guns (fwiw, i wish dems would back off this policy too) What headphones is probably referring to are not being harassed by ppl for living a different lifestyle/not having the govt take away ppl’s healthcare

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Anonymous #3 12h

Both are rights and equal in value, I don't see a need in drawing a difference but I assumed so

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Anonymous #3 12h

Headphones clearly does value the 2nd amendment less than other rights and wants me to agree with them on that

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Anonymous #1 12h

Something that is largely shared among US left wing politicians and is why I typically do not vote for them despite not disagreeing on much else

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Anonymous #1 12h

Deleted my last comment because I think I got too heated, sorry. To try at a more appropriate response: I do respect people’s right’s, and that hasn’t stopped the attacks on mine or anyone else’s. What makes you say so confidently that I don’t?

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Anonymous #1 11h

I’m not saying I agree w/the typical left-wing stance on 2A, what I am saying is ppl genuinely feel threatened by right-wing stances on social/economic issues

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

The fact that you don't see banning guns as equivalent to restricting free speech or other violations of rights

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Anonymous #3 11h

I'm not saying you have to share my admittedly pro gun views, but I feel threatened that the government wants to disarm me so bad. Pretty sure they did that before the Holocaust

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Anonymous #1 11h

Where did you get that impression? I believe the right to commit appropriate acts of violence, and therefore to be prepared to commit such acts, is a fundamental right to all persons. I’m not ranking any rights against that one. But even if it were truth that both oppose that right, that means the question isn’t even on the ballot or possible to vote on. I think there’s still a moral duty to vote against the violent white supremacist trying to purge the country of entire demographics.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

The fact that you're fine with banning guns compared to a different way of oppressing a bunch of people. I wouldn't vote for either, both are against my ideals.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

Like you talk about the Holocaust but my people are the ones they’re rehearsing its early stages with. We’re getting stripped of documentation, profiled by unaccountable police with concentration camps, and told by the literal White House that we will be disarmed, hunted and murdered in the name of counterterrorism. You can’t abstain from an election in the name of genocide prevention when one candidate wants to assist the openly genocidal party and the other one wants to shut them down.

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Anonymous #1 11h

You aren’t listening to me. I’m not fine with banning guns, but that’s not an issue that’s up for voting on right now EXCEPT insofar as one candidate wants to disarm entire communities to kill them and the other doesn’t. Framing this as a gun rights issue is frankly dishonest and nonsensical.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

I'm not saying that all of that is fine and well, I'm saying I wouldn't vote for another form of oppression instead.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

Don't come at me to change my beliefs, come at your politicians to better respect their constituents rights.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

(at this point in the convo, you should just be glad that #1 isn’t voting red)

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Anonymous #1 11h

No. What you’re saying is that you wouldn’t vote against genocide or ethnic cleansing. You’re saying you wouldn’t vote against the Klan. And you’re saying you won’t do it because of an issue that LITERALLY is not under dispute in this election. That’s why I say your beliefs aren’t worth taking seriously. Do you even hear yourself right now?

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Anonymous #3 11h

I mean fair enough. Guy is despicable but it’s not like he has any interest in changing so you’re right I should take what I can get.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

I wouldn't vote for any type of oppression or violation of meaningful rights granted to this country, ever. I seriously doubt that the best you can do is give me empty platitudes of the other side either, and know that in circumstances like these I fully blame your party for claiming to champion our rights in face of this and failing on the most basic of tests.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

Like seriously, get back to me when you can make it to the 3rd fucking right in the bill of rights.

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Anonymous #1 11h

Don’t talk to me about platitudes while you justify enabling fascists for reasons that make no sense. And “my party” what do you think I am some kind of democrat?

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Anonymous #1 11h

You know I’m a law student right? You really wanna quiz me on the Constitution because that’s embarrassing as hell for you.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

Not what I meant, God I would hope you can read.

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 11h

I meant without your ideology violating them

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Anonymous #1 10h

What do you think my ideology is? Take a guess

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 10h

Some leftist anti gunner crap most likely

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Anonymous #1 10h

You see why I have a problem with that answer right? I already told you I think the right to be armed is a fundamental right that must be protected, and with absolutely zero basis you just pull this answer from darkness of your own rectum. I’m an anarchist, a pretty adamantly pro-gun one. But you have kept pretending you have a reason to accuse me of undermining people’s rights or being anti-gun because it’s the only way to justify your bullshit throughout this thread (and it still wouldn’t!)

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Anonymous amethyst_headphone51 10h

If you were pro gun I don't see why you would be trying to win me over on voting against gun rights

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Anonymous #1 10h

I’m not. We’ve been over this.

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