Anonymous #1 13w

We had one on our discord for years, they left without saying anything suddenly, and to my understanding it’s bc we weren’t using their preferred pronouns

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Anonymous OP 13w

And you’re surprised why they left? Be fr

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Anonymous OP 13w

And I’m sorry but, making us all have to use unique words and phrases you invented just for us to refer to yourself isn’t affirming, it’s obnoxious. We are already super respectful of your gender identity as it is

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Anonymous OP 13w

You’re not respectful of their gender identity if you don’t refer to them by the pronouns they want to be referred to by.

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Anonymous #2 13w

They said they were cool with they. Like no none of us are gonna start saying “this one” every single time we need to say “you”, that shit is absurd. Like see ya I guess

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This wasn’t in typing, this was for voice chat. That a whole other thing no one would care about

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Anonymous OP 13w

How difficult is it to modify one person’s pronouns in one singular context?

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Anonymous OP 13w

What’s absurd is you making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Anonymous #1 13w

It’s not one singular context, they didn’t even like being addressed as “you”. Literally no one was having any of that shit.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Yeah so you weren’t respecting them. Like how do you not understand

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Anonymous OP 13w

The singular context is on discord, like this isn’t even your best friend who you talk to one on one in person, over text, call, etc. daily. I don’t think it’s that complicated.

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No you haven’t. Stop lying

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Anonymous #2 13w

I’m gonna be real, I don’t rly care. If you need to continue to make up ever-increasingly complex grammatical bullshit by the year to feel special, then maybe this is a you issue, not a me issue.

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Anonymous #2 13w

Like I said, we always respected it, til she added more and more. Like speaking fucking Morse code

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Anonymous OP 13w

Oh it’s definitely a you issue.

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Anonymous OP 13w

I don’t think swapping a single word is all that complex my guy. I fear this may be actually be a you problem.

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in real life? face to face?

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Anonymous OP 13w

As someone who hangs out with trans ppl online too, and irl, you’re valid OP. That stuff does get obnoxious, and it’s frankly rude.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Now who’s the one being absurd? Comparing simple words to morse code lmao fuck off

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Anonymous OP 13w

I’ve had to deal with this, where some ppl need to basically have a constructed language set aside for them, and no one likes it. No one.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Give me a fucking break. What’s rude is you not respecting it. Get the fuck out of here

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Anonymous #2 13w

I’ll respect anything you want within reason. Fictional grammatical structures do nothing but piss everyone off, like be real. It’s vastly inconsiderate

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Anonymous #6 13w

They’re not asking you to learn fucking Swahili you dumbass.

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Anonymous #6 13w

I think the simple solution to all of this is to simply not hang out with these people. If you don’t like them, which you both clearly don’t if basic respect for them is such a massive issue, then just don’t interact? Again, SUCH a tiny minority of people even use Neo pronouns, and even less are demanding about it

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Anonymous #6 13w

“It’s vastly inconsiderate” The fucking irony lmfao

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Anonymous #2 13w

Out of my disc of about 11 vc regulars, we honestly just all agreed that they’re a cunt. And I’m not allowed to say there’s trans regulars on there bc you’re gonna just say I’m doing the “I have black friends thing”

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Anonymous OP 13w

The white-knighting in here is crazy. It’s almost as if trans ppl are ppl, and they can have flaws and behavioral problems just like anyone else. Not allowed to say that I guess

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Anonymous #6 13w

Are you actually brain dead? No one is saying trans people are free from all responsibility, but you don’t get to say someone is a bad person just because they would like people to respect their pronouns, even if they seem silly or out there. It also doesn’t mean you can just disrespect someone’s identity because they’re an asshole.

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Anonymous #1 13w

Pronouns are one thing, what OP’s talking about is when ppl change it up on you and then get uppity when you don’t know about it. Like no I’m not checking your profile every day for the newest update, get a grip

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Anonymous #7 13w

EXACTLY

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Anonymous #7 13w

Bingo. Cunt behavior, don’t let the door hit you on the way out babe

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Anonymous #7 13w

First, where did OP say that? They’ve been talking about one person using one pronoun this whole time, and have been criticizing unconventional pronouns, but not that. second, how often do you actually encounter people like that? And third, who tf cares if they want to do that? Just don’t interact. No one is forcing you to do so.

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Anonymous #7 13w

You don’t deal with it on the regular. Stop the bullshit

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No you haven’t.

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Adults with a basic sense of social awareness should not be malding bc not all of their queer friends can keep up with their preferred language. It’s like being offended that some of us didn’t predict what they’re ordering for lunch today. And when you have one or two who act like this, it’s fucking infuriating

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Anonymous #7 13w

And I’m glad for OP that the problem child left, bc I would’ve done the kicking myself.

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to be fair, i had a friend irl that would change their pronouns and preferred name literally every day and they’d get mad if you didn’t know they changed it. idk if that’s what op is talking about, but there are people like that. idk respect their new pronouns but it would change so often i would have zero clue what’s going on

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Anonymous #8 13w

i’d* not idk

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Anonymous #9 13w

Because once we do and it starts being normal, they change it. Bc then it’s not special anymore. Its attention-seeking behavior disguised as affirmation and it’s honestly gross

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from what op has said, it sounds like this person has changed the rules a lot. idk if i’m wrong but i don’t think it’s necessarily fair to change the rules then get upset people didn’t know you changed the rules

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No trust me they give us the passive-aggression for it and then just outright aggression. It’s a putrid attitude

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Anonymous OP 13w

Then why not just change it as they want it changed?

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how do you respect a changed pronoun if you don’t know the pronoun changed at all 😭

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Anonymous #9 13w

Bc this person has borderline-personality disorder disguised as being trans, and none of us are playing this game anymore

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Anonymous OP 13w

Alright well why are you basing all people who use neo pronouns off of one?

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Anonymous OP 13w

that’s a little too much bud

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from what op said, this person said they were fine with they pronouns but then got mad when people in the server used they pronouns

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No, you don’t know this bitch. They’re literally fucking insane. And they use this thing to demand attention for themselves. They’re truly an awful person, and I’m glad they left without us having to do an officer powwow to define what to do

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Anonymous OP 13w

i had a friend like that but i’d never speak on their mental illness dude, that’s taking it a little too far. i know it can be annoying but lets be kind to others

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Anonymous OP 13w

Why are you applying that persons behavior to all people who use neo pronouns?

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Nah some ppl can be delulu and they try to pass it off as stuff like that it’s really sad

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Anonymous #7 13w

using neo pronouns isn’t “delusional”, it’s delusional to justify disrespecting pronouns just because you don’t understand them.

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Anonymous #8 13w

We’ve dealt with their shit for YEARS, we are only human, we’re not gonna tolerate this kind of behavior on our disc anymore when we have been polite and understanding, this was a long time coming, and nobody is upset that it did

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Anonymous #10 13w

i’ve met one person irl that uses neo pronouns but that’s it

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Anonymous #10 13w

Good tbh 😩 bc I’ve only had bad experiences

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i think we all need to realize we need to stop generalizing and realize that life is not black and white, and that everyone can have different experiences. this goes for everyone here. op could be right, the person they dealt with could’ve been difficult, but that doesn’t mean anyone that uses neo pronouns is the same way

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Anonymous OP 13w

Why. are you attributing this to ALL people who use them?

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Dude this is not everyone else’s fault in this server, all of this drama is their fault. It’s one person. We didn’t all simultaneously lose our minds having to keep up with their bullshit just to victimize them

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Anonymous #8 13w

and riddler, you could also be right that op was the difficult one. that doesn’t mean everyone that uses neo pronouns is understanding about people needing time to adjust

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shitler is going into my vocabulary, but yeah i agree op has taken things too far

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and if it wasn’t a problem with their pronouns, it’s a problem with something else. Oh we all watched the Sonic movie when she wasn’t on, just to include her on purpose, actually no, we literally posted the event with signups. Gaslighting self-victimizing bitch

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Anonymous OP 13w

Exclude*

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Anonymous OP 13w

okay then if it’s a deeper issue and not just a neo pronouns issue, why are their neo pronouns a more pressing matter than the fact that they were an asshat.

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You don’t have any

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Anonymous #8 13w

this is like lilly tino but on yikyak

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Anonymous #8 13w

LMFAO

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Anonymous #2 13w

i’m serious everyone hates lilly tino because she’s annoying but they misgender her and hate on her pronouns instead of the fact that she’s annoying annoying shitler

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Anonymous #8 13w

Nah the neo-pronoun thing goes hand in hand with this behavior, there’s a reason it’s rare

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Anonymous #8 13w

an annoying shitler but annoying being there twice is fitting

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Anonymous OP 13w

How do you not realize you’re the asshole here? Like seriously

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Anonymous #7 13w

i’ve personally met some great people that use neo pronouns, i’ve also met some asshats that use neo pronouns. generalizing people based on language is crazy

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Anonymous OP 13w

op, i’ve met someone very similar to what you’re describing and i understand, but it feels like rather than understanding their behavior isn’t related to their neopronouns, you want to grasp onto it as another way to hate on this person

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I’m sorry but it’s true and OP’s valid. They are few and far between, but they tend to have serious fucking issues when you get to know them. The attention-seeking, that shit is real af

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Anonymous #7 13w

is it attention seeking to want to be respected? it’s one thing if they change their pronouns every day but if it’s a one time thing why is that attention seeking? that’s like having a nickname and people refusing to use it

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Anonymous #8 13w

it’s not attention seeking it’s just a preference.

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Anonymous #8 13w

Well that wouldn’t be problematic at all, choosing pronouns and sticking to them for a reasonable amount of time, and not freaking out when ppl make a mistake.

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idk why these people are acting like being an asshat is exclusive to neo pronouns.

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I would certainly hope everyone who uses these pronouns doesn’t act this way. Pick a set and stick to them for 5 minutes for God’s sake. Don’t pick ones just bc they’re complicated, you’re allowed to have the same pronouns as another human being. Like holy shit

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This person was inventing words neither you nor me have ever heard before, stealthily replacing the old ones in their disc profile, saying nothing until someone inevitably gets it wrong, when they act like everyone is out to get them, and everyone has to go “omg I’m so sorry”, like wtf is this behavior

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Anonymous OP 13w

Bro shut the fuck up already. You’re so exhausting

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Anonymous #2 13w

Try dealing with months of this garbage fucking behavior bro.

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Anonymous OP 13w

You use the same logic that racists use against racial identities lol

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Anonymous #2 13w

If you’ve never dealt with this then sit the fuck down.

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Anonymous #2 13w

All of you jumping on OP bc it’s fashionable to do so have no exposure to any of this behavior, bc you don’t have actual exposure to trans circles, the only one here who actually seems to are OP and #8.

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Anonymous #7 13w

That’s untrue. We’re “jumping” on him because he’s wrong. And if you were an adult you’d know better than to assume others experiences with trans circles in an attempt to justify a false sense of superiority on this subject. Try again.

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Anonymous #9 13w

If you actually did you’d realize that not everyone who claims to be trans is sincere, you just jump to their defense from the instant you hear they might be. Ppl like OP is talking about are NOT sincere, they are frauds in need of attention and mental help.They do far more damage than anything OP has said or done.

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Anonymous #9 13w

They attach themselves to trans communities like parasites in need of attention that will never ever be fulfilled

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Anonymous #7 13w

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they made it all up just for attention. Fake-ass person

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i can see ops side in that though, the person i know that uses neo pronouns switches them almost every single day and at that point it’s a bit annoying and does feel performative

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Anonymous #7 13w

OP disparaged ALL people who use neopronouns. How is that okay?

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Anonymous OP 13w

That’s the same logic that racists use. That is textbook identity punishment.

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Anonymous #8 13w

and it is a little insane to change your pronouns and not tell anyone, then expect everyone to know you changed them and get upset when they don’t use the new pronouns

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Anonymous #8 13w

Thank you like holy shit. We literally try our best to keep up and end up having to say sorry anyway, it’s not fair

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Anonymous OP 13w

you’re not out of the woods bud, you’re still not paying attention to the root issue you have and are instead trying to generalize communities

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Anonymous #8 13w

I don’t wanna do the “I have black friends” thing but we are literally the gayest fucking discord in existence, idk what community we’re generalizing except our own?

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Anonymous OP 13w

people that use neo pronouns?

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Anonymous #8 13w

To be honest I mean, no we’re really not fans of that. Maybe it’s how members of a religion look at other members of the same religion who are more extreme.

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Anonymous OP 13w

You use the same logic racists use; then you proceed to justify it by using another racist style argument.

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Anonymous #9 13w

I mean I don’t rly know what to tell you, I don’t like Neo-Pronouns 🤷‍♂️ And I consider it a red flag for a person. That is my honest to god opinion

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Anonymous OP 13w

So the way someone identifies, as part of their gender or sexual identity is a red flag for you?

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Anonymous #9 13w

It makes me suspect of their intentions and their sincerity, ESPECIALLY when it changes regularly.

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Anonymous #9 13w

It feels mocking, like a caricature

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Anonymous OP 13w

So again, if someone used that same logic when talking about racial identities, would you find that okay?

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Anonymous #9 13w

No obviously that would not be ok, but this is apples and oranges.

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I’m trying to impress upon you that my opinions are coming from a queer perspective not a chud one. I hate Neo-pronouns and this is not an uncommon opinion among this community from what I’ve seen

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Anonymous OP 13w

So when people are claiming identities, when is it okay to discriminate against them or hold specific beliefs on their identity once they’ve identified themselves? Is it just arbitrary to you? If you had a bad experience with trans people? Then trans identities?

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Anonymous #9 13w

It’s not arbitrary to me at all, it’s the opposite, it’s their being arbitrary to the point of confusion. If your own identity was that important to you, you wouldn’t treat it this way, and that comes across as fake.

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Anonymous OP 13w

You said if someone uses those pronouns, you’re suspicious of their intentions. If someone were to do the same thing but replaced it with race, why would that upset you?

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Anonymous OP 13w

When I say this btw, I mean if someone were to do what YOU were doing. Neopronouns warrant suspicion of intentions.*

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Anonymous #9 13w

There’s a problem in the trans community, and that is people can say who and what they are, and not actually believe it, and it’s obvious to real trans ppl. And it’s not fair for the rest, who’ve gone thru surgery, who’ve gone thru severe depression and suicidal thoughts due to dysphoria before transitioning, to humor these ppl

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Anonymous OP 13w

That’s not really an answer. You’re the one who’s making these wide generalizations about all people who use neopronouns.

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Anonymous #9 13w

If someone said the same thing with race as I said, no that’s not ok.

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Anonymous #9 13w

But rotating thru a collection of words that didn’t exist before to describe yourself is not race.

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Anonymous OP 13w

Why isn’t okay if someone treats racial identities, the way you’re treating gendered pronouns?

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Anonymous #9 13w

Bc race is an immutable aspect of yourself, not self-abuse of your gender identity to give some excuse for anti-social abuse against others.

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Anonymous #9 13w

Rotating thru Neo-pronouns like that isn’t affirmation, it’s narcissism and emotional manipulation. It’s very easy to see thru that kinda BS

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Anonymous #12 13w

🙏 😩

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Anonymous OP 13w

It’s actually not. I study sociology for a living. Race by definition is a construct. Gender identity is also. Both identities have the capacity to be inherent to your role as a person when you claim the titles but neither are necessarily biologically tied or “immutable” So again, why is it okay to suspect ALL people who claim that identity of being disingenuous?

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Anonymous #12 13w

It’s actually not right to generalize entire groups off 1 person.

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Anonymous #9 13w

Good thing he/she didn’t say a whole group and instead was referring to hypothetical future interactions. Stay strong tho

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Anonymous #7 13w

“Dealt with this” Bitch it’s not even an issue. You’re just being an asshole. There are bigger issues in the world. Grow up

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Anonymous #9 13w

If race is a construct exactly like gender identity then does that mean behavior like inventing several races unique only to you and cycling thru them is acceptable behavior? I don’t see that happen. What point could there be to Neo-Pronouns except to use them in a manipulative and self-aggrandizing way? It’s pretentious behavior at best, abuse at worst.

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Anonymous #9 13w

This behavior is overwhelmingly performative. There’s no gender-affirming merit.

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Anonymous #12 13w

How does it take effort? You’re lazy as fuck

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Anonymous #2 13w

Because it breaks down everything we learned about grammar growing up by introducing nonexistent vocabulary that has no logical derivation

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Anonymous #12 13w

He quite literally did. It’s in his postz

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Anonymous #12 13w

Yes. Now imagine if you have 2 different folks on voice chat with 2 different sets of rules, or even 3. In that case we will use “they”, if they don’t like it, they can find another disc that speak 3 dialects of pig Latin

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Anonymous OP 13w

So your answer as to why it’s okay to suspect all people of that identity is a question? “what point could there be” What’s inherently abusive about a neo pronoun? And why is that any different than someone identifying as transgender?

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Bc there are very few of “those weirdos”. I highly doubt you’ve met plenty of them. You’re just being an asshole

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Anonymous #12 13w

Yeah see it actually does exist. You’re just an ignorant piece of shit

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It doesn’t surprise me that your only real argument is an insult against the mentally disabled

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Anonymous OP 13w

Nice my comment got reported

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Anonymous #2 13w

Anything can be made up and then exist. It doesn’t change that there’s no logical derivation

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Anonymous #12 13w

I assume it was the slow bit, it’s not hard to be a good person and not accuse others of being mentally disabled lol.

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Anonymous #12 13w

There is a logical derivation but even if there wasn’t. IF, why is that grounds to suspect all people who hold the identity of being manipulative or abusive in nature

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Anonymous #9 13w

Not answering questions of things that aren’t in the original post

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Anonymous #12 13w

It’s always a good sign when 1 question is too much for someone lol. Thanks for showing the instability of your entire position

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Anonymous #9 13w

For sure you’re so right! My position about the post is invalidated by not answering stuff not in the post!

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Anonymous #12 13w

You saying that, doesn’t actually make it true. The fact that 1 question offends you to the point of admitting you’re just going to avoid it, shows how weak the position is if slight pushback is too much lol.

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Anonymous #9 13w

Sorry looked back and didn’t see anyone offended.

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Anonymous #12 13w

I did don’t worry. You might not recognize it on a conscious level; that wouldn’t surprise me if your capacity to understand that logic doesn’t exist yet in your head.

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Anonymous #9 13w

You also might not recognize on a conscious level that you’re incorrect haha

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Anonymous #12 13w

The fact you keep avoiding my question proves otherwise lol. As long as you keep avoiding it; my point is proven.

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Anonymous #9 13w

Praying for your id

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Anonymous #12 13w

Praying you stop letting your feelings get in the way of adult conversations

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Anonymous #9 13w

Getting very mature vibes from you my bad I guess I’m just not as mature as you 😔

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Anonymous #12 13w

I’d say you aren’t if you’re not able to not get comments taken down lol

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Anonymous #9 13w

My bad twin I’ll try harder next time 🥀

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Anonymous #12 13w

Good.

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Anonymous #9 13w

Good.

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Anonymous #12 13w

:)

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Anonymous #9 13w

:)

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