Anonymous #6 13w

Sure, but they don’t deserve to be bombed for trying to get on even ground with other nuclear states. Frankly if we had nuclear power worldwide, I think a lot of the everyday struggle much of the world experiences would be lessened, and more resources could be allocated to social good. But right now, we are at least a decade away from that if everyone laid down arms today.

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Anonymous #7 13w

This is the same logic as “if everyone has a gun nobody shoots”. Clearly that doesn’t work

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Anonymous #8 13w

No, it’s the same logic as if everyone has only 1 bullet, they can only target 1 person, and then they are left defenseless. That’s the purpose of a meaningful deterrent.

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Anonymous #7 13w

That’s a bold assumption. Many Westerners believe that these countries hold the same ideologies that we do, when we are frankly mistaken. Having a western democracy with nuclear power is VERY different than having a theocratic dictatorship with nuclear power. As Iran has been using Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist proxies towards the aimed destruction of Israel, what makes you think they wouldn’t nuke them if they had the resources?

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Anonymous #6 13w

Okay, so you’re wrong on every front here. Israel funded Hamas, and then funded gangs inside the strip to disrupt the distribution of aid. These gangs are the primary holders of hostages, and are continually armed by Israel. You are participating in hasbara, Zionist propaganda.

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Anonymous #7 13w

You have got to be kidding me here. Israel has only ever given Hamas money for “aid”, a completely unprecedented action for funding a government that literally wants to KILL THEM (don’t believe me, check their original charter). That whole “gang” theory is complete hogwash and entirely less plausible than Hamas taking hostages, by the way WHICH THEY FILMED. Hamas has openly taken credit for October 7th, so your argument has no leg to stand on. Please stop supporting terrorist cells.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Oh boy, so Israel is a terrorist state and is lead by a wanted war criminal. Hamas was funded by Israel to usurp the prior leadership. The IDF has been caught giving arms to gangs in the Gaza Strip. The only terrorist here is you, and the country you support. Israel opened fire on clearly marked UN aid vehicles, have shot their own citizens on Oct. 7 resulting in over a third of death from that date being friendly fire. It’s literally backed by every reputable international watchdog.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Literally backed by no one other than conspiracy theorists my guy. If you really think Israel and Netanyahu (the government which traded hundreds of jailed terrorists for the BODY of Gilad Shalit - including Yahya Sinwar) would do that to their own people, you’re twisted. Israel has always fought tooth and nail for their people (see: Shalit above) and if you think they would intentionally slaughter Israelis for a motive, you’re only believing what these idiots online peddle.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Additionally, Israel did not need a new motive to attack Hamas before October 7, as there are hundreds of attempted and a handful of successful terror attacks every year on Israelis.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Clearly you are brainwashed. I use court cases and on the ground cameras. I’m a member of several international legal organizations. I have a degree in law and in policy. I feel bad for you, you really do need to take an objective look at all the evidence. You’ve been lied to your whole life kid.

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Anonymous #6 13w

I’ve watched the IDF shoot Israeli children in the head, and then laugh. I’ve seen the images from the murder and rapes of civilian abductees with metal poles by the IDF. I then watched as hundreds of Israelis stormed the camp to demand the guards responsible be released. You have no idea what you are talking about, and it’s evident.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Dude, first of all, I’m not sure I can take you at your word. I could lie and say I’m Nancy Pelosi and it would have the same amount of credibility as your claims. But, if we’re going down that road, I know hundreds of IDF soldiers personally, and they have said nothing of the sort goes on. What they have said is that they saw Hamas massacre their friends and families on October 7. I also happen to know several Israelis who are at ground zero.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Yes, there may be a few bad apples in the IDF (as in any army), but to claim it’s an institutionalized goal is madness. I highly doubt these “videos” you’ve seen, and even if you have, they were probably not advertised appropriately. Additionally, I have trouble believing your “accolades”, as this thread is meant for college students only.

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Anonymous #6 13w

It is institutionalized, and you can see the camera feeds and criminalization of Israelis who post strikes for yourself. You don’t have to believe me, because I know I make a difference in the world daily through my work. This is just me trying to deprogram a Zionist Nazi. Perhaps you should play the game “Zionist or Nazi” in which you determine who said which quote. Might open your eyes to the truth of the situation. Israel and their settlers are an occupying force committing war crimes.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Again, as someone with firsthand knowledge who has been to the region, I can attest that Israel’s culture and army promotes nothing of the sort. You might want to fact check these videos that you are watching. It would be quite easy for someone posing as an Israeli to send these videos claiming them to be atrocities committed by Israelis, when in fact they originate from elsewhere. You clearly are falling victim to propaganda, and I cannot fathom where you are finding it, since I have

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Anonymous #6 13w

Seen nothing of the sort. What I have seen are videos of Hamas terrorists brutally murdering, raping and torturing innocent Israeli civilians on October 7, which they posted and proudly claimed for the world to see.

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Anonymous #6 13w

Buddy, you have no idea what you are talking about. I encourage you to actually go look, because you clearly haven’t. You are on the wrong side of history.

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Anonymous #7 13w

Great counterargument over here. History will frown upon Hamas and every Iranian terrorist cell. But keep living in delusion, will only make it sweeter when it’s all said and done.

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