Anonymous #2 12w

The majority of ppl voted in support of that is what I’m saying I was hoping ppl that saw this post had literacy understanding

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Anonymous OP 12w

“maybe we shouldn’t demonize things” “you idiot can’t you read”

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Anonymous #1 12w

Literally name basic issues, immigration, abortion, inflation, there’s more but those are just some that we are so so split on

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Anonymous #1 12w

Hey idiot I was replying to you when you said this

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Anonymous OP 12w

So you meant to be hypocritical to someone else.. Got it

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Anonymous #3 12w

LITERALLY, I’ve had people tell me I need to cut off my family for having maga ideals like that’s a healthy alternative and not further alienating us from the right which is just becoming more extreme

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Anonymous OP 12w

half of these things involve human and civil rights. You want to compromise on civil rights? lol

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Anonymous #1 12w

Grow up and reply to my post ur literally the type of leftist I’m talking about dude

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yes because our current system doesn’t answer to these problems sufficiently

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Anonymous OP 12w

ironically “literacy understanding” is redundant and also doesn’t apply here? trump voter is not the same maga and depending who you’re talking about this posh can have different meanings so if you meant trump voters just say that idk

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Anonymous OP 12w

I asked you a question and pointed out how hypocritical it is to say not to demonize someone then go on to demonize them for disagreeing.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Immigration-yes you should enter legally, no you shouldn’t be forced out just for doing so illegally

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Anonymous OP 12w

That’s the most dumbed down example I used for ya to pick apart

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m still waiting for you to actually reply to my post about civil rights

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Anonymous OP 12w

Why is it a good thing to compromise on civil rights? How does that benefit those impacted, positively?

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Anonymous #1 12w

Because when you don’t at all because it’s “inhumane” you have politicians taking power over lies like “they’re eating cats and dogs”

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Anonymous OP 12w

but..it IS inhumane 🧍‍♀️

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Anonymous OP 12w

So it’s good to remove SOME civil rights for the sake of compromise because people will gain power being hateful anyways?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Just did. Stop crying

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Anonymous #1 12w

No ur misinterpreting what im saying idk if im explaining it fully, here’s a super dumbed down example-Biden term-easier immigration process (through an app idk im not hyper educated on this) = more illegal crossings = more Fox rhetoric on how immigrants are the enemies = trump second term

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Anonymous OP 12w

>"as a leftist" >immediately caving on basic human rights

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Anonymous #1 12w

ARE YOU LEFT OR RIGHT MY POINT OF THIS POST WAS LEFTIST CANT GET ANYWHERE WITHOUT HAVING TO COMPROMISE AND YOUR LITERALLY ARGUING WITH ME ON HERE ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF MY STATEMENT

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Anonymous OP 12w

So why does the world of misinformation have priority when it comes to changing policy? Your argument to me is we should change things based on the misinformation that comes out about it anyways

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Anonymous OP 12w

You seem to be confused. I want you to look at who you’re talking to and if you’re still confused, tell me.

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Anonymous #3 12w

it super depends what specific topics we’re talking about and the setting

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Anonymous #4 12w

Nice meme, where’d I do that though? What’s the right answer? I’m vehemently against ICE my take would be to make that our Law enforcement’s responsibility like they handle any and every CRIMINAL notice how I said criminal, I don’t want work raids I don’t want school raids I want actually violent people legally removed and it should be a process that’s not needed a new org like ice for

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Anonymous OP 12w

mif somebody is anti human rights and i verbalize that is it demonizing them or just describing them

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Anonymous #1 12w

Whatever man here’s ur brownie points u owned a random leftist that was hoping this post had good feedback but everyone just attacked me😭

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Anonymous OP 12w

I asked you a question and then pointed out how it’s hypocritical to demonize someone after you said we shouldn’t demonize people

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Anonymous OP 12w

You’re insanely sensitive if you think anyone here has attacked you.

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Anonymous #2 12w

He’s saying he’s getting attacked now for this lol

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Anonymous #1 12w

You asked what specific things, I listed basic points this country is always arguing about and it became a point that I’m anti human rights I’m gonna get frustrated that my take is being misconstrued

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Anonymous OP 12w

You said you want to compromise on civil rights. YOU said that. When did I or anyone else outwardly attack you? All this thread is, is people criticizing your thought process

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Anonymous #1 12w

By compromise on civil rights I meant I believe that we need to accept that some people are going to want deportations, we have the choice though, will these be legal or illegal operations, currently they are illegal operations done by ICE, raiding work and school, we could do without ice though, and just have law enforcement get the criminals like what their job is to do, and then if they aren’t documented that should add to their legal case. I’m not a boot licking trump supporter at all

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Anonymous #1 12w

Or another compromise that I’m sure will get me posted by you as a “transphobe” HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF GIVING THE FAR RIGHT THESE “men in girls lockers” TALKING POINTS WE JUST MAKE A TRANSGENDER SPORTS LEAGUE

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Anonymous OP 12w

So why to you, do you think we should compromise on the policy positions of civil rights, because others disagree with some groups having those civil rights?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Stop crying holy shit. You’re choosing to ignore the one question which is when did we attack you. All we’ve done is criticize the flawed thought process and you keep claiming to be attacked.

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Anonymous #1 12w

I don’t like that you’ve narrowed this down to civil rights but if not compromising leads to extremes like ice raiding schools then I do believe we need to have a RESPCTFUL convo

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Anonymous OP 12w

Alright and if their position is “less civil rights” would you be in favor of compromising civil rights laws and regulations?

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Anonymous #2 12w

I agree with this too, there are things that need to have a harder stance on but if we can’t compromise on the issues that are compromisable-we are creating an environment that welcomes extreme ideals like illegal ice raids

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Anonymous #1 12w

You describe less civil rights to me

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Anonymous OP 12w

Use your understanding of what civil rights are. Would you, yes or no?

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m not answering this unless ur specific bcuz u took my last broad answer and made yikyak posts with it for brownie points just name a mf issue holy

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Anonymous OP 12w

Great transgender acceptance, specifically HRT access to adults. If their position is “we should not allow transgender rights in that way” would you be willing to compromise on that and support anti trans healthcare policies in ANY capacity?

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Anonymous #2 12w

To an extent, a lot of people and their beliefs stem from how they grew up and what they were taught. Some of the issues that many leftists would think are no brainer, the right winged individuals were taught to the get-go the opposite. I think it’s smart to remain calm and understanding even if the principles of someone not understanding is beyond infuriating.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Still waiting btw for when I attacked you.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Not for legal adults no at all, I replied to a person below literally agreeing that some topics need a hardline stance

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Anonymous OP 12w

Alright; and women’s decisions to have their lives prioritized during abortions?

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Anonymous #3 12w

For example, I grew up in a very southern environment and the n-word would get thrown around quite often. I never knew it was a bad thing nor was I ever taught about its history. It wasn’t until I had someone talk to me about it and obviously the media has also played a part. What I’m trying to say is things that a person would think are a no-brainer, may not be to those who are just uneducated on the idea or who were taught the opposite wether that’s from their parents, or environment.

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Anonymous #1 12w

These are things that are both hardline stances we have to take on the left. Women should have the ability to have an abortion in any case because of well researched and known information about their anatomy, I don’t wanna live in a society that keeps dead women alive to incubate a fetus

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Anonymous OP 12w

Alright see we can talk civilly now that you aren’t crying about being attacked. Most of the Rights stances contest these hardline stances. So give me an example of something you think the left SHOULD compromise on?

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Anonymous #1 12w

It got so quiet when you learned I’m actually not advocating for removal of civil rights didn’t it?

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Anonymous OP 12w

That’s not an answer.

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Anonymous OP 12w

You said yes buddy. Maybe if you weren’t too busy pretending to be a victim you would’ve answered better lol

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Anonymous #3 12w

well yeah leftists have to learn everything they know too lack of intent doesn’t absolve ikr from responsibility or accountability when the actions they take due to their ignorance are harmful to others. it doesn’t mean they’re the devil but doesn’t mean they deserve to be coddled for bad behavior

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Anonymous #1 12w

The left needs to accept that people are going to be deported, we can and should demand it’s done legally, but I’m not feeling any sympathy for example, the fent dealer that they posted who was crying that she was being deported

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Anonymous OP 12w

The left has accepted that. Biden ran on proper immigration and immigration reform, AND on average he deported more per month than Trump did his first term.

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Anonymous #1 12w

Still tryna argue for brownie points acting like I’m a crybaby for rightfully calling you out for trying to take one (not even fleshed out) statement and quoting it on yikyak tryna call me out

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Anonymous OP 12w

You’ve avoided the one question I’ve asked this entire time, which is when did I attack YOU and not how you’re choosing to think about this. But you can’t answer that. Because you know you were choosing to be sensitive lmao

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Anonymous #1 12w

Here’s another one we needa compromise on, child transitions, idc how they feel at the time idc the defenses or the attacks on the subject itself, it should not be allowed from a biological perspective, literally any source ive seen on child transitions describes how it hormonally destroys a developing human being

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m literally describing how you quoted a screenshot of my take unless u aren’t the person that did that then you’re wasting my time goofy

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Anonymous OP 12w

Actually studies show that within groups ages 6-12 ish that social transitions benefit them. Statistically speaking minors who have access to gender affirming care have lower suicide and depression rates. I’m getting my masters in the fall in biomedical sciences this is specifically the subject I know most about.

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m a karma junkie too I love the dopamine hit of getting upvotes but ur making ur attempt so obvious

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Anonymous #1 12w

Social transition is the same as gender reassignment surgery? Or therapy? Just asking for clarification

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Anonymous #1 12w

The stuff I’ve seen describes that inducing the hormones and the surgery obviously alters their bodies in more ways than what they intended

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Anonymous OP 12w

What?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Social transitions are like name changes makeup, etc etc Gender affirming care means therapy, HRT, social transitions, basically everything besides surgery until like 16-18 years old in some states.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Yeah but HRT exists in multiple ways. People use puberty starters for cis kids who don’t have enough hormones, some get HRT to replace genetic or physiological differences

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Anonymous OP 12w

Omg gender confirmation surgeries on people who aren’t 18 happen in extremely rare circumstances only when it has been deemed that there is an extremely great chance that the person suffering from dysphoria will commit suicide. The majority of trans adults don’t have gender confirmation surgery, it’s not like a fucking drive through where you pull up and get a surgery just like that. You wallow in ignorance.

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Anonymous #1 12w

This is acceptable if you’re a legal adult in my opinion, I see what you’re saying but I’m still uncomfy at the idea that a child that young would be that seriously dedicated to becoming a different gender, you can make that argument for an adult though

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Anonymous #1 12w

Because it’s not like any of the procedures done within that for a child aged 6-12 is signed solely by them, it’s a decision ultimately up to the parents right? And what fcking right do parents have to change their child’s gender

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Anonymous #5 12w

I’m not an expert on everything correct my take was that we need to compromise in a democratic society holy hell never did I say it was common I just said it’s definitely something the left can compromise on with the right

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Anonymous OP 12w

But why is this something politicians who are frankly just like you not experts get to make drastic decisions on instead of the person going through dysphoria, the parents, doctors, psychologists, etc. who are experts on these matters? By compromising on the issue you are giving the right a means to crack down on marginalized people who are just trying to live their life. You’re so concerned with not upsetting the right you are throwing marginalized people under the bus.

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Anonymous #5 12w

I am not concerned with not upsetting anybody I just gave an example of something we could compromise on with the right and suddenly I’m throwing “marginalized people”-trans children under 18 which you already said only happens if it’s to stop someone from committing suicide

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Anonymous #5 12w

We can hardline an adults right to become trans and also concede with the right to make people wait until 18 to be able to have that procedure

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Anonymous OP 12w

Your uncomfortablity shouldn’t be the deciding factor of whether or not a child ends up depressed or suicidal due to a lack of care. Do you agree?

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Anonymous #1 12w

Yes but your anger at my opinion doesn’t destroy my take, we can treat suicide and depression in other means than just that. Do you agree?

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Anonymous OP 12w

You said in response to learning about social and hormonal transition “I’m uncomfy.” You said in response to me answering how you are incorrect about gender confirmation surgery being a big thing “we can compromise on this.” I am responding to everything you have said about any aspect of transition and how you said it can be compromised on. Yes trans people are marginalized and when you want to compromise with a side that does not support trans people yes you are throwing them under the bus.

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Anonymous OP 12w

You should really stop speaking on things you’re “not an expert on.”

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Anonymous OP 12w

Biologically speaking, and medically speaking minors with gender dysphoria are best treated with gender affirming care. Before you start crying I didn’t say anything about you being angry at this subject so stop trying to play the victim. Should someone’s feelings impact the way mental and physical differences are treated?

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Anonymous OP 12w

You may not realize it but this is a similar stance against trans people’s rights as a whole. Some republicans believe trans people should be treated with different methods instead of hormones.

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Anonymous #5 12w

My point was never ban transgenderism just that child transitions can be harmful and can be done away with let’s stop acting like we can’t have that opinion without being homophobic

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Anonymous #5 12w

I agree with this lol

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Anonymous OP 12w

Okay so everything I just said about the very rare instances being able to have gender confirmation surgery either you didn’t understand or you did and you just don’t give a fuck because right wing feelings are more important than preventing suicide. Why should you who is ignorant get more of a say then psychiatrists, psychologists, doctors, etc who try multiple solutions to alleviate extreme dysphoria just for all else to fail and so use what they have left at their disposal which when it 1/2

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Anonymous OP 12w

Transgenderism is a right wing rhetorical tool to imply being harsh is a choice.

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Anonymous #1 12w

And that’s something we can say no too! I’m saying that we can give up child transitions and keep the option open for adulthood

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Anonymous OP 12w

trans is a choice****

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Anonymous OP 12w

Has happened has proven to be a positive in alleviating extreme dysphoria the vast majority of the time? Why do you get the say but the people who are educated experts get shut out?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Medically, that type of care is most successful in reducing depression and suicide You’re advocating for removing the factual best way to treat people who later, kill themselves.

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Anonymous #5 12w

Why do you get to put that statement in my mouth that professionals don’t get any say when I literally just said the left can compromise with the right on that specific topic of transgenderism

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Anonymous OP 12w

Stop saying transgenderISM its a term that was made specifically to invalidate trans identities.

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Anonymous OP 12w

Who the fuck said anything about homophobia? Again keep showing the ignorance. And child transitions the vast majority of the time are social which has not proven any lasting damage. Those who eventually get hormonal transition the vast majority of the time are better off. Those few circumstances who get surgery the vast majority of the time are better off. Keep doubling down Mr “I am not an expert.”

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Anonymous #1 12w

I’m again, just saying we can compromise on the topic of child transitions which as described by #5 is extremely small and is done to treat things that have alternatives

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Anonymous OP 12w

The type of care is what the issue is. When the lives of children and their quality of life are at stake, do you think that’s something we should compromise on?

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Anonymous OP 12w

Trans people are not an issue and when you say the left and right can compromise to make sweeping decisions yes you are cutting educated experts (which you are not) out because these are case by case issues.

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Anonymous #1 12w

I didn’t even know that and that wasn’t my intention at all IM UNEDUCATED ON THIS TOPIC HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT I LITERALLY BELIEVE THAT BOTH POLITICAL SIDES CAN COMPROMISE ON THAT SPECIFC FRINGE TOPIC

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Anonymous OP 12w

How though, one side is advocating for removing care that’s been proven to save lives and the other side isn’t budging. Which to you is the more correct stance?

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Anonymous #5 12w

I’ll be as ignorant as I want bcuz u are simply educating me more on this topic so thank you!

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Anonymous OP 12w

There are multiple types of transitions which has been stated multiple times and described. And in the cases where surgery is done it is because every alternative has been tried. Stop acting like medical care is a fucking McDonald’s.

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Anonymous OP 12w

If you’re uneducated then stop doubling down and screeching about how you and the right know better than those who are educated.

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Anonymous #1 12w

One side believes that it isn’t always the child’s decision and worry that they’re leaving their at birth gender identity up to parents and the other believes they’re saving children from suicide

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Anonymous #1 12w

So my reply to u is just another question, statistically-which side is more accurate

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Anonymous OP 12w

Science suggests it saves kids from suicide, not the left. That’s a medically recognized consensus.

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Anonymous OP 12w

I asked you which is more moral to you. That’s not an answer.

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Anonymous OP 12w

The side that believes they’re saving children from suicide because Trans related gender affirming care has literally been put under the category of life saving care.

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Anonymous OP 12w

The interesting thing here is, even after I told you the biological facts, you refused to change your stance. Which is also indicative that you cant even do what you advocated for your in your post.

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Anonymous OP 12w

there will be no compromises on basic human rights. that is antithetical to leftism. there can be NO victories without having at least SOME baseline consistency of beliefs. that’s exactly why the democrats have been such dogshit for decades. you are asking people to become establishment democrats when they are literally the root of the problem. please be so for real

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