Anonymous #1 2d

No, actually I think babies shouldn’t be murdered!

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Anonymous OP 2d

thankfully when they’re aborted they’re usually clumps of cells or fetuses that aren’t yet viable to live outside of the body rather than “babies”

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Anonymous #2 2d

Ok murderer 👍

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Anonymous #2 2d

They say life begins at conception but then call people 1 year old a year after they were born, which is it?? 😂😂😂

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Anonymous #1 2d

Should we ban abortions past the point of viability?

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Anonymous OP 2d

are you gonna look me dead in the eyes and say this is a baby?

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Anonymous #3 2d

Only 1% of abortions occur after 21 weeks and 99.99% of them are medically necessary, banning them may just prevent women from receiving lifesaving care

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Anonymous #1 2d

HAHA they’re always moving the goalposts. a republican once told me he was 9 months old when he was born because he was a “baby” in his mothers womb and he started counting the day he was conceived, he still got arrested for underage drinking and lying about his age to the cops!

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Anonymous OP 2d

If murder, then why not arrested? Checkmate dumbass, keep coping 😂

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Anonymous #1 2d

Over 97% of all abortions overall are caused due to “elective reasons” and are unrelated to any health of the mother, r*pe, or incest.

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Anonymous #2 2d

How come if someone kills a pregnant woman it’s a double homicide?

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Anonymous OP 2d

not true in every single state

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Anonymous OP 2d

Because chances are she wanted to keep the baby. It’s not a real murder (because it isn’t a person yet), but it’s a preemptive charge. How come if fetuses are people they don’t have an SSN? Every US Citizen must have a SSN. If fetuses are babies, shouldn’t they get an SSN at conception?

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Anonymous OP 2d

notice how I said “after 21 weeks” specifically

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yeah but I don’t need to exist within in someone else’s womb to continue living

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Anonymous #1 2d

Cool nice cherry picking

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Anonymous #2 2d

Fetuses are not US citizens, is your augment that only US citizens are “people”?

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Anonymous OP 2d

I was responding to the person asking, “should we ban abortions past the point of viability?” I chose 21 weeks bc that’s the absolute absolute earliest a fetus could ever even be realistically viable and that’s already pushing it extremely

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Anonymous OP 2d

you never answered my question, is this a baby? is this a human being?

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Anonymous #1 2d

Probably not that’s likely a dolphin because apparently the way a person looks to you determines if they deserve to be murdered or not

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Anonymous OP 2d

You just called a human fetus a dolphin and yet you double down on all fetuses being babies 😭

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Anonymous OP 2d

They’re not US Citizens? So they’re in the country illegally? Better not let Trump hear this… he’s gonna abort them all!

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Anonymous #1 2d

That isn’t the gotcha you think it is

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Anonymous OP 2d

you’re so confident in fetuses being babies and you can’t even tell if it’s a dolphin or a human…

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Anonymous #1 2d

Again, not the gotcha you think it is

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Anonymous #1 2d

Whats your source for the 99.99% stat?

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Anonymous #1 2d

The only state that keeps data on this is Arizona. They publish an annual report that tracks abortion statistics, including the reasons for late term abortions. Consistently, they find that ~80% of abortions after 21 weeks are elective. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/public-health-statistics/index.php#abortions Should we ban elective abortions past the point of viability?

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Anonymous #3 2d

I mean I would still say no, personally I think any ban on abortion could prevent people from receiving the medical care they need, I would say it’s the mother’s decision until the baby is born and would support people choosing to get an elective abortion past 21 weeks if they so choose, that should be a decision made by the specific woman and her doctor, not a politician or you and I

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not yet a human, it’s a fetus, fetuses aren’t human beings yet, unless you think miscarriages are manslaughter

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Anonymous #1 2d

And there it is, you don’t care about the reason of baby murder you think all baby murder is acceptable

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Anonymous OP 2d

no because I don’t think it’s a baby until it’s born, before birth I believe the mother should have the ultimate decision

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Anonymous #3 2d

No we shouldn’t ban abortions past the point of viability because some ppl end up having complications around that term that causes them to have to get an abortion

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Anonymous OP 2d

“Elective reasons” can be literally everything. All that means is they don’t give a specific reason as to why they got an abortion. So of that 97% a large majority can be rape, incest, or risk of health to the mother because they don’t have to put their business out there if they don’t want to

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Anonymous thereal._.ruckus 2d

That doesn’t seem to be the case for the vast majority of post-viability abortions. Should we ban elective post-viability abortions, which seem to be the majority?

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Anonymous #3 2d

Where’s ur proof that the “vast majority” of post viability abortions being elective? And what does “elective” mean in this instance. Because if there’s no actual reasoning given it can be once again what I stated above…

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Anonymous #3 2d

And no we shouldn’t, we don’t have the right to govern what a person does with their body

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Anonymous #1 2d

If you support elective post-viability abortions, why did you argue about medical necessity and viability rates? Those arguments seem irrelevant to your actual position. Were they made in bad faith?

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A fetus isn’t generally considered viable at 21 weeks…are u illiterate?

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On top of that, abortions that happen closer to birth are RARE. This chart itself includes abortions prior to viability and post viability…

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It’s called Ebonics. Instead of ad homing actually attack the argument. Abortions that happen around birth are rare and caused by complications. Should a woman whose baby implanted itself on her liver not be allowed an abortion because u think it’s “not ok.” Did you even know an embryo could implant itself on a woman’s liver?

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Exactly. It includes fetuses who aren’t yet viable in this statistic. So ur argument is already kinda flat lmao. A fetus isn’t viable until 23-24 weeks. And when those abortions at that stage happen it’s because of complications with the pregnancy. So, like I stated, tha chart includes non-viable pregnancies.

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It’s not a human because it hasn’t been born yet. It’s a fetus, or a potential human, and will be a human once it is delivered at birth.

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I never called it a clump of cells this entire discussion so 1.dont put words in my mouth. 2.its not growing in ur body so why does it matter? Elective doesn’t give much information as to why they got the abortion.😐 we’ve already acknowledged the chart yall are referring to includes non-viable pregnancies as a fetus isn’t viable until 23-24 weeks. Ppl check of elective because they aren’t required to state why they’re really getting an abortion. Why is that so hard to grasp?😭

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Anonymous #3 2d

Because most people care, I don’t but I want to engage in the argument more similarly to my peers, so yes bad faith

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Anonymous OP 2d

Bro has no capacity to understand nuance that’s so embarrassing 🫵

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