Anonymous #2 12h

Oh and I guess defunding regulatory bodies that make sure we don’t have poop in the salad but whatev

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Anonymous #1 12h

that’s not true

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Anonymous #1 12h

No that’s not true

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Anonymous #3 12h

Calling someone beautiful isn't telling them obesity is healthy. Nobody's arguing that, so it's a strawman. And shaming doesn't work for anyone: in a large 2013 study, people who experienced weight discrimination were about 2.5x more likely to become obese, not less. Stigma drives stress eating and keeps people away from doctors. The idea that men need to be told they're fat while women "get lost in the sauce" is a gender stereotype with nothing behind it.

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Anonymous #7 11h

yes

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Anonymous #7 11h

I’d argue obesity is. People can be sedentary and still be healthy, but arguably both are detrimental long term and we should promote less sedentary living and healthier consumption

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Anonymous #1 11h

Being too underweight and overweight are not good for you

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Anonymous #6 11h

Agreed, establishing universal healthcare and access to education would solve many socioeconomic problems that create bigger problems we see today

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Anonymous #8 11h

I don’t shame anyone and am not intending on promoting that behavior. As someone else stated already, shaming only worsens the issues. It is objectively bad to be overweight/underweight, I’m focusing on the issue of obesity since it’s a much bigger problem in our country. Unless someone has medical conditions that put them in this position, being overweight is a choice, which is something we as a society need to work on moving away from

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Anonymous #2 11h

Promoting vaccination is also a very important thing we need keep moving towards

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Anonymous OP 11h

I wasn’t talking about education or healthcare, though they do need reform. I was specifically talking about access to healthy food, and that requires cracking down on massive corporations driven by profit motive. Our socioeconomic problems are caused by imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy. Education is only one part of the solution. Embodied cultural healing is just as important and it requires compassion for one another.

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Anonymous #6 10h

I’d argue a lot of socioeconomic problems *do* stem from white supremacist legacies in American history, but can be solved today by pushing for access to universal healthcare and expanded access to education. We would see less people of color in poverty, less overall violent crime and more people living healthier. It’s a domino effect of positive outcomes. Regulating the food industry to limit the abilities of profit driven fast food corporations would be even more beneficial.

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Anonymous OP 10h

The health risks of obesity are real, but "objectively bad" slides from health fact into judging people. BMI is 40-70% heritable in twin studies, and the AMA calls its cutoffs imperfect for individuals. "A choice" erases genetics, poverty, and food access. You can't see someone's health, history, or struggles from their body. Judgment ends the conversation before you understand the person, compassion starts it.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Agreed on the domino effect, but getting there starts with culture, and culture is how we treat each other. That's why your original post matters. You complained about people calling fat people beautiful. That's exactly the kind of affirmation that builds trust. Bad experiences reinforce fear and defense; good ones reinforce healing. You can't want compassion in policy and resent it in person.

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Anonymous #6 10h

My post was about people using affirmations to reinforce poor lifestyle choices. I should clarify, everyone is beautiful, but you can also be beautiful by making smarter lifestyle choices

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Anonymous OP 10h

You've got it backwards. A 2014 meta-analysis found fit people with obesity had about the same mortality risk as fit normal-weight people, while unfit normal-weight people had roughly double the risk. Fitness predicts health better than size. Some obese people are metabolically healthy; some thin people aren't. Wishing people good health and fixating on their bodies aren't the same thing.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Yeah, and that’s a myth. Obesity is America is NOT a “poor lifestyle choice”, it’s a systemic outcome caused by a BROKEN SOCIAL STRUCTURE. I don’t know how much clearer I can explain that to you.

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Anonymous #6 10h

*in

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Anonymous #6 10h

Suburbs are contributing to it by being unwalkable

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Anonymous #6 10h

Are we to ignore that heart disease is still the leading cause of death in our country with many leading causes stemming from poor diet and alcohol abuse? Smoking as well but that is luckily on the decline. My last sentence in my previous comment was largely my own opinion on the matter. But we as a society should live healthier and should help one another live better.

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Anonymous #6 10h

It’s poor lifestyle choice for millions still. And the amount we can curb by shifting our lifestyle choices would make a difference

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Anonymous OP 10h

We’ve already disproven that. Unless you’re claiming to be psychic?

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Anonymous OP 10h

Individual habits matter, but whether people change them depends on how they're treated. Weight stigma is linked to more eating, less exercise, and avoiding doctors. People change when they feel safe, not shamed. Saying everyone is beautiful but they can be beautiful by making smarter choices still makes worth conditional. If you want lifestyle change, it starts with how we treat each other: compassion first, then support, then access.

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Anonymous #8 10h

I don’t think this has anything to do with judging people. Obesity is a very serious issue and there is no reason 42% of our country should be obese.

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Anonymous #4 10h

There is a very good reason. Obesity is a systemic issue, not just a personal one. Read my comments.

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Anonymous #6 10h

I disagree. You say genetics and yes, there are causes that can lead to someone be predisposed to becoming obese but it’s not the sole cause. Poverty and food options sure they play a role, but you can’t say that and not account for the over eating that’s actually happening and the lack of physical activity. You can eat “unhealthy” food and not be fat the same way you can eat healthy food and be fat.

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Anonymous #6 10h

and the lack of physical activity is adding to the problem here. You don’t need a gym or a membership, walking for 10-15 min a day would be incredibly beneficial to obese people. A

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Anonymous #4 10h

Overeating and inactivity are how obesity happens, not why. Adult obesity went from about 15% around 1980 to 42% today. Human genes and willpower didn't change in 40 years, our food supply, cities, and work did. That's what systemic means. And agreed, walking helps, which is why it matters that so much of the US isn't built for it. If 42% of people are "choosing" the same thing, it's not a personal choice anymore, it's a pattern.

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Anonymous OP 10h

Nobody's ignoring heart disease. But look at your own smoking example: adult smoking fell from about 42% in 1965 to around 11% today because of taxes, ad bans, warning labels, and indoor smoking laws. That's systemic change, not people suddenly finding more willpower. We need to do the same with food and regulate junk food marketing, subsidize fresh food, build walkable cities. That's what "helping one another live better" actually looks like. Not withholding compassion in exchange for prejudice

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Anonymous #6 4h

yeah a pattern of overeating

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