Anonymous #2 4d

The high speed chase that was initiated was ILLGAL there’s no reason for this to have happened

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Anonymous #2 4d

No dumbass they’re not supposed to do burnout high speed chases in urban areas, they put the lives at risk by initiating. Even cops have to follow rules to take people in, federal agents doubly so. Dumbass take justifying excessive force and MORE ICE ESCALATION without literally any knowledge of what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Id love to know where you’re deriving that information from, because from my understanding, fleeing from federal officers giving lawful orders is actually the ILLEGAL thing here and that was what ultimately led to the tragedy

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Anonymous #2 4d

You’re only supposed to initiate high speed chases in very specific instances, and unmarked vans and cars aren’t allowed to do high speed chases AT ALL. not to mention this was not in cooperation with local police.

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Anonymous #3 4d

I’m glad we’re able to discuss this with civil discussion instead of simply throwing insults around. I would love to see what you’re referencing about them “not supposed to do burnout high speed chases” because that’s not anything that I’ve been able to find in their local regulations. The illegal immigrant which fled from them in the first place caused the action both through his own actions and the chain of events he initiated. I see no plausible way to shift blame off of him.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Again, I see no reference to actual code or sources in your argument. Here’s some of mine: Georgia law governs vehicle pursuits under O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6. An “authorized emergency vehicle” may exceed traffic regulations when responding to a fleeing suspect if emergency “lights” and “siren” are activated and the officer exercises due regard for public safety. Liability attaches if the officer acts with reckless disregard for proper law enforcement procedures.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

The fleeing driver is the primary party liable for a fatal crash because their decision to flee and drive recklessly was the proximate cause of death. A federal agent is not automatically liable merely for initiating a lawful stop or pursuit. Liability shifts to the United States under the Federal Tort Claims Act ONLY if the agent acted negligently or with reckless disregard and that conduct is determined to be a proximate cause of the crash.

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Anonymous #2 4d

Here’s Chatham county’s policies on high speed chases. Note the bottom where it states officers are responsible for all their actions and usage of emergency lights does not shirk responsibility

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Anonymous #2 4d

Georgias law and Chatham county’s law are similar but probably not quite one to one because in Savannah it’s not usually permitted to initiate high speed chases for the safety of the people in the city. Given that it’s pretty walkable, a death like this is bound to occur in such a case

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

I appreciate you citing this. Under Georgia law and the policy shown, a pursuit is justified when an officer has reasonable grounds to believe a forcible or violent felony has occurred and when immediate apprehension outweighs the danger created by the pursuit. The policy also makes clear that officers must comply with O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6 and avoid reckless disregard. It does not prohibit all pursuits; it sets a threshold.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Because the officer was acting within lawful authority and within the scope of O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6, the pursuit was justified. The causal chain begins with the suspect’s voluntary decision to flee lawful orders. The fatal crash was the direct result of the suspect’s reckless driving, not the activation of emergency equipment by law enforcement.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6 expressly provides that an officer shall not be deemed the proximate cause of damages caused by a fleeing suspect unless the officer acted with reckless disregard for proper procedures. Where no such reckless disregard exists, legal responsibility rests with the driver who fled and caused the death.

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Anonymous #2 4d

I gotta point out though that it’s staring that they must believe a violent felony has occurred. ICE isn’t responsible for detaining people based on felonies, based on their behavior in Minnesota they’ve been detaining people just by pulling up on them out of nowhere. I can’t say I know for sure the immediate incident of what happened, but odds are the guy was just running away from being detained, and not posing enough of a danger to warrant an initiation of a high speed chase

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

The quoted line states: “Unmarked police vehicles, pick up trucks, and/or motorcycles shall not engage in vehicle pursuits.” That language is agency-specific. It governs vehicles operated under that particular department’s policy framework. It does not create a statewide statutory prohibition, nor does it bind federal law enforcement agencies operating under separate federal authority and internal policy.

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Anonymous #2 4d

*I don’t know for sure lol

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Anonymous #2 4d

I feel like that initiating a chase on the grounds of someone fleeing detainment without cooperation from the local police could be classified as reckless but hey what do I know

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Listen, you clearly know more about the law than I do, but honestly I think it’s highly up for debate on whether the grounds for starting the chase was justified and not reckless endangerment on the officer’s end

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Your concern assumes the violent-felony threshold from a county police policy controls this situation, but that framework does not govern federal agents acting under federal authority. ICE operates under 8 U.S.C. § 1357, not CCPD policy, and O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6 focuses on whether officers operated with due regard and without reckless disregard, not on whether a state violent felony was the original predicate.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

The moment a suspect refuses lawful commands and initiates vehicular flight, the risk calculus changes because high-speed evasion itself creates an immediate public safety threat. Within that broader legal structure, the operative question is compliance with governing authority and pursuit standards, and the proximate cause of the fatal crash remains the driver’s voluntary decision to flee and drive recklessly.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Under O.C.G.A. § 40-6-6, an officer is only deemed the proximate cause of damages from a fleeing suspect if the officer acted with reckless disregard for proper law enforcement procedures. Reckless disregard is more than initiating a pursuit; it requires a conscious indifference to known safety risks in violation of policy or training. The absence of local police involvement does not automatically make a federal pursuit reckless, nor does the mere fact that the initial contact involved

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

… detention rather than a violent state felony. Once a driver chooses to flee in a vehicle, that conduct itself creates an immediate and serious public safety risk.

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

I appreciate the fact that you’re willing to admit that and I commend you on your ability to maintain a civil discussion about the topic. I think that discussing things like this are a necessary part of our society as a means of checks and balances. Ultimately, though, I cannot find any defensible way to shift blame off of the driver who fled and caused the tragedy. It doesn’t sit right with me to blame someone else for his actions

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Anonymous #2 4d

You yapped so much about the law you crashed my app lol

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

LMAO my bad. That’s a first and I will be marking this in my calendar as a yearly celebration

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

I guess I misunderstood the legality of it, tho I’m not sure how much applies to police in general vs ice agents bc I do know federal agents operate under a different protocol than police do, but if this ice guy needs a defense attorney I’ll be sure to give him your number

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Haha thank you. I’d be more than happy to represent him as this case currently stands

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Anonymous #2 4d

Hey just wanted to come back to you one more time because I found out that they went through residential roads and a school zone during Monday rush hour during this chase. In Chatham county Officers are expected to terminate their pursuit when the threat to public safety outweighs the need for apprehension of a suspect. So like I feel like they probably should have realized this shit wasn’t worth it

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 4d

Like I think you said this earlier but new info was posted about the story, idk if that changes anything for you about how you view it

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