Anonymous #1 16w

We def need it. I personally think we need mandatory TB vaccines. Most of the rest of the world requires them, but in the US we’ve decided that waiting until people get it to deal with it was a better allocation of resources than providing general population protection

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Anonymous #2 16w

I haven’t either

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Anonymous #1 16w

the reason why the flu is no longer as deadly as it used to be is bc of vaccines. flu vaccinations don’t necessarily mean you won’t get it, it just means that if you do get it the chances of it being deadly are MUCH lower. do some research on influenzas in the past and you’ll see how much deadlier they used to be before. we are extremely lucky to be born in an era where we think of the flu as nothing more than a cold, when a couple generations ago it almost certainly would’ve meant death

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Anonymous OP 16w

I 100% believe in vaccinations and I understand their importance in eradicating diseases. But it didn’t sit well with me whenever the vaccines themselves weren’t given time to develop a robust safety profile before seeing widespread administration to the general public.

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Anonymous #2 16w

It wasn't rushed you had the entire world working together on the vaccine as well as a bunch of red tape getting pushed out of the way

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Anonymous #2 16w

Yeah I totally agree

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Anonymous #3 16w

Does modern healthcare and medicine have nothing to do with it?

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Anonymous #5 16w

You do realize that what you see as so-called “red tape” getting pushed out of the way may be seen by somebody else as neccesary precautions enacted in order to prevent people from suffering potentially harmful adverse reactions from things, right?

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Anonymous #1 16w

yes, and vaccines are absolutely a part of modern healthcare and medicine. any doctor worth their salt can tell you that preventative measures are MUCH better at treating things than anything you can do afterwards

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Anonymous #3 16w

Sure I get all that. I think you’re underestimating my knowledge in all of this though, I’m really just questioning where the value lies. Like I’m well aware how bad the Spanish flu was, and how bad H1N1 (swine flu) was. For particularly bad flu seasons (each season has different new strains that they *predict* will be the main spreader that year. If the make a vaccine for the wrong one they actually do nothing). Whereas for TB, we really just have to be immunized when we’re young then we’re

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Anonymous #3 16w

Done with those vaccines. I think in any given year, Americans are better off having had a TB vaccine as a kid than getting a new yearly flu shot. Again tho, if it’s a particularly severe strain, then generalized immunizations would make more sense

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Anonymous #1 16w

i think the value lies in the fact that if you can prevent something deadly from infecting you with something that takes less than half an hour to do (getting vaccinated), then you should. i think we should think of it like this: if everyone stopped getting the flu vaccine, it would inevitably cause larger outbreaks of the flu, which then increases the amount of people that are hospitalized from it. those people are then taking beds from people suffering from other things that maybe couldn’t

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Anonymous #3 16w

have been prevented

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Anonymous #3 16w

Yes yes I know, I’m saying this for strains that legitimately are as benign as a cold. That’s not every year, but for those years it is benign I don’t necessarily think we *need* them

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Anonymous #1 16w

well that’s why it’s not mandatory to get it, it’s just the smart thing to do. nobody is FORCING you to get a flu shot

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Anonymous #3 16w

I think that should change then. Mandatory for public school children in bad years, optional in not bad. Then again, it probably was already a struggle just to get the public to accept yearly optional shots in the first place

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Anonymous #2 16w

But the vaccine is absolutely safe

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